<div dir="ltr">That makes sense. So there would be no localisation teams but docs, wiki, etc. translation teams. Making the web, and all related media translated to the maximum amount of languages will definitely increase the user base exponentially.<br>
<br>Best regards.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 January 2014 22:52, Jean-Marc Gailis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeanmarc.gailis@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeanmarc.gailis@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
Hi!<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
I explained on the blueprint some of my ideas.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I
think you may understand that Ubuntu Gnome l10n team will not work,
for the most important part of translations, on software, but on the
stuff related to Ubuntu Gnome that brings us new users, with the Marketing team.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The l10n team will not work alone, but with other teams.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">We also have to make the Doc fully translated, as it is for Ubuntu in many languages.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
Otherwise, "simple" people will not be able to use Ubuntu Gnome.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Remember what Ali signs: "<span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)">All of us are smarter than any one of us."<br>
</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)">We have to work Together!<br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)"><font color="#000000">We have to make our work available through the LoCoTeams, because the base user will not look what is going on behind; if he gets bugs, he just want help. <br></font></span></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)"><font color="#000000">And who helps the power user?<br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)"><font color="#000000">The LoCoTeams!<br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)"><font color="#000000">So we have to help the LoCoTeams!<br>
</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)"><font color="#000000">In the LoCoTeams I'm involved in, there is a big wiki, which helps also helps people using others distros, because it is fully accessible. And the user gets help on the forums.<br>
</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)"><font color="#000000">As you may know, many of our users don't use Ubuntu (any flavour) to read books about Unix.<br>
</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)"><font color="#000000">We don't have to make their road longer. Remember, we are there to help, not to complicate things.<br>
</font></span></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="im"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br>Jean-Marc Gailis</div><div dir="ltr">Jānis-Marks Gailis</div><div dir="ltr">Latvian Ubuntu Translator</div>
<div dir="ltr">Ubuntu Translator Team<br>Mozilla Translator Team<br></div><div dir="ltr">Think Global, Make Locales.</div></div></div></div>
<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2014/1/6 Alfredo Hernández <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aldomann.designs@gmail.com" target="_blank">aldomann.designs@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I don't know how we are going to handle the translations, but count me on. I'm the coordinator of the English (UK) and Catalan translations teams of elementary OS and a contributor to the Spanish team as well. I also contribute to other Launchpad.net projects.<br>
<br>Cheers.</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On 6 January 2014 07:29, Jean-Marc Gailis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeanmarc.gailis@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeanmarc.gailis@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">We have to translate the Marketing; and not every translation team is translating the slideshow for others Ubuntu flavours; they leave it to each flavours translations team: us!<br>
</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">We also have to translate the posters and all the marketing stuff.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
We have to work!<br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="im"><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br>Jean-Marc Gailis</div><div dir="ltr">Jānis-Marks Gailis</div><div dir="ltr">
Latvian Ubuntu Translator</div>
<div dir="ltr">Ubuntu Translator Team<br>Mozilla Translator Team<br></div><div dir="ltr">Think Global, Make Locales.</div></div></div></div>
<br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">2014/1/5 Tim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tim@feathertop.org" target="_blank">tim@feathertop.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On 06/01/14 07:18, João Santana wrote:<br>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif">I
have some experience on translation, since I am a former
member of Brazilian Portuguese Translation Team and
translation contributor of mainstream GNOME for PT-br.<br>
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AFAIK, Ubuntu flavors benefits directly of mainstream
translations. So if we need Ubuntu GNOME's Gnome Shell fully
translated to, say, French or Turkish, is very interesting to
join the respective translation teams in GNOME Project.<br>
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The majority of translations for Ubuntu GNOME will apply upstream,
so should be done through the upstream GNOME teams. The remaining
bits that aren't covered there will also affect Ubuntu, in which
case we should be working with the Ubuntu Translation teams.<div><div><br>
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Nevertheless, a specific Team to care about translations
parallel to The other teams, with people focused on, is a very
good idea. Count on me ?<br>
<br>
João Santana<br>
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</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:amjjawad@gmail.com" target="_blank">Ali Linx (amjjawad)</a></span><br>
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<div>Hi,<br>
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Every now and then, I've received and still receiving
emails/questions about this topic. Therefore, I have decided
to update the Wiki Page:<br>
<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Translations" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Translations</a><br>
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And created this new blueprint:<br>
<a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/ubuntu-gnome-translation" target="_blank">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/ubuntu-gnome-translation</a><br clear="all">
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<div>To save everyone's time (instead of keep replying
with the same answer) and to do things in the right way.<br>
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<div>This is not a high priority IMHO but might be needed
if we will have an LTS release.
<br>
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<div>Please be informed that I have no idea - despite I
speak/read/write two languages fluently - about anything
related to translation than what I put together on the
above Wiki Page :)<br>
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<div>And, there is NO work to be done on this area unless
there is a dedicated driver for this who will start
building his team/group and move forward.<br>
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<div>I hope this will answer any Question in this regard
:)<br>
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<div>Many thanks!<br>
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<div>P.S.<br>
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<div>Those who are involved with other tasks/sub-teams
currently need to focus on these current tasks for this
cycle as this is our highest need and priority. So,
obviously, this is to open the door for new bloods to
step in and help if interested.
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