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    Its not a strict dependency and will mostly work without it, however
    if you are not using staging then its probably best to add gnome3
    ppa to ensure you get gnome-control-center 3.8<br>
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    Tim<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/09/13 19:21, HadiM wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I think an answer from Tim will be nice to clarify
        the point but I'm pretty sure gnome3 ppa is required because
        some packages are needed for next ppa. If it's working smoothly
        for you without gnome3 ppa, I may be wrong...</div>
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          HadiM</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:18 AM,
          Romuald TISSERAND <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                      <div>Ok.<br>
                        <br>
                        Regarding the ppas, your message is not in the
                        same line as Tim previously wrote. When the Next
                        ppa was created, the message sent by Tim was:<br>
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                      - gnome3 for 3.8<br>
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                    - next for 3.10<br>
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                  - staging for unstable<br>
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                And as Gnome 3.8 is the baseline of UG 13.10, I don't
                really understand why we should add the Gnome3 ppa with
                13.10. Could you please clarify?<br>
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              Thanks.<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:14
                    AM, HadiM <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                        href="mailto:marelo64@gmail.com" target="_blank">marelo64@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                      <div dir="ltr">If you use next ppa, don't forget
                        to also use gnome3 "normal" ppa. Some
                        applications are still with 3.8. UG developers
                        are working on it. You can look at staging ppa
                        to see what are the next applications coming
                        soon to next. For example, gnome tweak tool is
                        still in 3.8 but in 3.10 in staging so I guess
                        3.10 will come soon in next.</div>
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                          --<br>
                          HadiM</div>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 26,
                              2013 at 11:08 AM, Romuald TISSERAND <span
                                dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:rtisserand@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank">rtisserand@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                                    <div>It helped a bit HadiM, thanks.
                                      I removed the 3 gnome3 ppas, and
                                      re-installed the
                                      ubuntu-gnome-desktop meta package.
                                      I'm back in 3.8.<br>
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                                    I added the Gnome"-Next ppa. I
                                    works, I'm now running Gnome-Shell
                                    3.10.0.1, great!<br>
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                                  Last annoying point is applications
                                  are still in 3.8 (Nautilus and Gedit
                                  for instance), new version haven't
                                  been integrated into the Next ppa yet?<br>
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                                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu,
                                        Sep 26, 2013 at 9:48 AM, HadiM <span
                                          dir="ltr"><<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:marelo64@gmail.com"
                                            target="_blank">marelo64@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                        wrote:<br>
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                                          <div dir="ltr">First you
                                            should not use ppa instead
                                            you're able to fix problem
                                            by yourself... Now if you
                                            want to come back to normal
                                            distribution without ppa.
                                            You can use an app called
                                            ppa-purge. You can install
                                            it with sudo apt-get install
                                            ppa-purge. Then to revert a
                                            ppa, use this: sudo
                                            ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging
                                            to remove staging ppa for
                                            example.
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                                            <div>In term of stability, I
                                              will strongly suggest you
                                              to only use gnome3 and
                                              gnome3-next ppa. staging
                                              ppa should not be used by
                                              a normal user, except if
                                              you know exactly what
                                              you're doing.</div>
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                                            <div>Hope it helps</div>
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                                            <div>Bye</div>
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                                              HadiM</div>
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                                                <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                  Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at
                                                  9:38 AM, Romuald
                                                  TISSERAND <span
                                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rtisserand@gmail.com" target="_blank">rtisserand@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                                                        <div>Hi,<br>
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                                                        This doesn't
                                                        change anything.
                                                        Right now, I've
                                                        the gnome3,
                                                        gnome3-next and
                                                        gnome3-staging
                                                        ppa. update,
                                                        then
                                                        dist-upgrade say
                                                        everything is up
                                                        to date...but my
                                                        Gnome Shell is
                                                        gone. All I have
                                                        is a terminal.<br>
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                                                      Guys, it's pretty
                                                      urgent to get back
                                                      a fonctionnal
                                                      computer.
                                                      Something should
                                                      have been removed
                                                      from a ppa by
                                                      mistake. Not a big
                                                      deal, but any fix
                                                      would be greatly
                                                      appreciated.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Thanks.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      romu<br>
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Wed, Sep 25,
                                                          2013 at 1:12
                                                          PM, HadiM <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:marelo64@gmail.com" target="_blank">marelo64@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">You
                                                          need to add
                                                          this
                                                          ppa ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
                                                          in order to
                                                          use next ppa.
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                                                          <div>@developers:
                                                          you should add
                                                          this tip to
                                                          next ppa
                                                          description.</div>
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                                                          --<br>
                                                          HadiM</div>
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                                                          <div>On Wed,
                                                          Sep 25, 2013
                                                          at 10:10 AM,
                                                          Romuald
                                                          TISSERAND <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rtisserand@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">rtisserand@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>I'm using
                                                          only the next
                                                          ppa.<br>
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                                                          Right now, if
                                                          I do a
                                                          dist-upgrade,
                                                          gdm,
                                                          gnome-shell
                                                          and
                                                          ubuntu-gnome-desktop
                                                          are removed
                                                          because of a
                                                          non satisfied
                                                          dependency on
                                                          Mutter.<br>
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                                                          But stupid as
                                                          I am, I typed
                                                          Y instead of
                                                          no. So now,
                                                          I'm trying
                                                          with the
                                                          staging ppa...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          romu<br>
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