<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hello Ubuntu GNOME fans :)<br><br></div>Just to keep everyone posted about some other activities off this list, below is a discussion on the Ubuntu QA Mailing List.<br>
<br></div>On the last vUDS, myself and Nicholas Skaggs (Ubuntu QA Community Coordinator) have discussed some topics about testing in general and one of these topics was about the lack of actual dedicated testers among our communities in general (Ubuntu Flavours) and how to get more. There ware some suggestions from my side and Nicholas added some, etc and we agreed to come up with a plan so that we can move forward and get more testers (that was one important side of the session and there is actually another side but will talk about it later).<br>
<br></div>The below email is the first step of that plan :)<br><br></div>Simply, from each flavours, there will be one or two members who will team up in a group (recruiting group) and this group will be dedicated to find more testers for the whole community. It is a great move that we do hope to get started and achieve what we aim to.<br>
<br></div>So, don't be surprised if I will a pain in your neck from now and on, nagging all the way about having more testers and join, etc etc :D<br><br></div>Remember, and I write this from experience, without 'Testers', there is NO system, no matter how powerful and smart developers or any other members a project may have. Without TESTING that code, it would be totally pointless even if it is the best code in the world.<br>
<br></div>Testers play a very important and major role on the Software World. <br><br></div>Unlike what some may think, it is FUN. It is a huge opportunity to learn A LOT. It is an easy way to make new friends. It is a great chance to talk/chat with the developers and those who are behind the system that you are using. I can list lots of amazing stuff about testing but as I do believe that "Action Speak Louder Than Words", my words may be less helpful if you will not TRY that yourself :)<br>
<br></div>By the way, it is ironic that if you have never ever done any testing before, that will make you the best and the perfect candidate as a tester :)<br></div>Surprised? I was too 3 years old when someone from LXDE Team told me this. I wasn't sure what exactly he was talking about or trying to prove so it was just a matter of time until I rolled up my sleeves and started to dive deep and deep inside testing for 2 years now :)<br>
<br></div>Yes, I have to admit, I do love testing new stuff since I was a kid. And, that hobby developed until I got my BSc in Computer Since and until I joined Linux Communities and until I became the QA Lead of Ubuntu GNOME. Did I ever know that could even happen? NOT even in my dreams. You know why? because I just did what I loved and believed in, and it just came naturally :)<br>
<br></div>Oh, I wrote too much, sorry :P<br></div>It is obvious I am so in love with testing (24/7/365) so, you are lucky that among you, there is someone so obsessed about it ;)<br><br></div>If you need any more information about our project, let me know and if you still did not see this:<br>
<br><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam</a><br><br><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities</a><br><br></div>and of course, if you have social network account(s): <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam#Social_Networks">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam#Social_Networks</a><br>
<br></div>One last thing: Please, always remember: ALL of us are smarter than anyone of us. And, Ubuntu Philosophy is, indeed, depend on that :) it is about all of us and how we communicate and work together for the greater good. <br>
<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br></div><div>Please, see the below forwarded message!<br></div><div><br><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Ali Linx (amjjawad)</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amjjawad@gmail.com">amjjawad@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 12:49 AM<br>Subject: Re: Kickstarting growth for quality<br>
To: Nicholas Skaggs <<a href="mailto:nicholas.skaggs@canonical.com">nicholas.skaggs@canonical.com</a>><br>Cc: "<a href="mailto:ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com</a>><br>
<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>Hello Nicholas,</div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Nicholas Skaggs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nicholas.skaggs@canonical.com" target="_blank">nicholas.skaggs@canonical.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<font face="Verdana">As part of the last vUDS, we held a session on
Quality efforts in the flavor world. The largest source of
feedback was that more people are needed to help with testing.
</font></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>I was waiting this email with open excited eyes :D</div><div><br></div><div>Indeed, we had a good discussion [1] and indeed, QA Teams in general lack testers. Some Flavors have even less tahn 5 regular testers and this is not helpful when things get too serious. </div>
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<font face="Verdana"> Armed with this feedback, we decided to put together a core group
of folks who would be interested in promoting quality efforts
across all flavors. Sound interesting?<br></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Thank you for that, this was needed so badly.</div><div><br></div><div>If I may, I'd like to step in and be the driver for this core group with you of course and anyone else who would like to join is more than welcome. I have long experience with recruiting (testers, users, supporters, etc) and I can help a lot. In fact, that is one part of my daily activities anyway :)</div>
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<font face="Verdana">I'd like to request for volunteers who would be interested in
meeting and brainstorming ideas to help increase our outreach as a
community. </font></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Yes, we do need people to join this core group and help to recruit more testers.</div><div class="im"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font face="Verdana">This would be a small working group of people who are
interested and can dedicate themselves to put some ideas into
action over the last couple months of the cycle. An idea needs
people behind it in order to succeed, and that's the goal of this
group.<br></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>+1</div><div>Totally agree.</div><div><br></div><div>If I may propose, I'd suggest to have one member or two members from each official flavor (Lubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, Xubutnu, Kubuntu, etc) to join this small group. It is about quality not quantity so no need to so many people, just few active dedicated people who will work together as one group/team to recruit more testers. </div>
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That said, you don't have to join a special group to help grow our
community!</font></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>+1</div><div class="im"><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font face="Verdana"> Ubuntu Global Jam is coming up and I would encourage
everyone to participate locally or remotely with others, and to
incorporate testing as part of there jamming.</font></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Seems like a good plan :)</div><div class="im"><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font face="Verdana"> Social networks and
other communities you participate in are also great sources to
share about what's going on and invite others to join you in our
quality efforts.<br></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>+1</div><div><br></div><div>Oh yes, leave that to me ;)</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Thanks everyone!<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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Nicholas<br>
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</blockquote></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Thank you so much, Nicholas for your email :)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br></div>[1] - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nQxoEhRgj8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nQxoEhRgj8</a><span class=""><font color="#888888"><br></font></span><br></div></div></div><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr">
<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#351c75" size="1"><span style="color:rgb(153,0,0)">Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."</span><b><br></b></font><font size="1">Best Regards,<br>
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad</a><br></span><br></font></span><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="1">My Projects: <a href="http://iamnewtolinux.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">IamNewToLinux</a> - <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu" target="_blank">StartUbuntu Project</a> - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/352004991569676/" target="_blank">Linux Brainstorming</a> - <a href="http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/07/draft-mubuntu-simple-minimal-system.html" target="_blank">Mubuntu</a></font></span><div>
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