Stock Gnome experience

[Eemil Lagerspetz]

Hi guys,
I would like to point out that the usual naming convention for vanilla
vs ubuntu-flavored desktop environments is:

https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/mate-desktop-environment
Plain Mate

https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/ubuntu-mate-desktop
Ubuntu Mate

https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/cinnamon-desktop-environment
Plain Cinnamon (has no Ubuntu variant)

There is even

https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/budgie-desktop-environment


This seems to partially hold for Gnome:

https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/gnome-desktop-environment
Old name for the vanilla Gnome

https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/gnome
Plain Gnome desktop

https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/vanilla-gnome-desktop
Another plain gnome?

https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/ubuntu-gnome-desktop
Ubuntu Gnome




On Fri, 2018-01-26 at 09:15 +0100, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> ubuntu-gnome-desktop depends on an hybrid between Ubuntu-Gnome and
> Ubuntu-Unity.
> This package should depend only on vanilla-gnome-desktop, or just
> vanilla-gnome-desktop be renamed to ubuntu-gnome-desktop
> 
> To be as consistent as other packages/tasks (such as
> ubuntu-mate-desktop), if someone installs Ubuntu-server and adds this
> package, should get a clean and full Ubuntu-GNOME.
> Another package as "ubuntu-gnome-core" could be useful too.
> 
> Please, don't confuse Ubuntu-Unity 8.1 with Ubuntu-Gnome, and take
> into
> account the main announced principle "mostly pure GNOME desktop
> experience built from the Ubuntu repositories".
> http://ubuntugnome.org/
> 
> 
> El 26/01/18 a les 02:34, Jeremy Bicha ha escrit:
> > 
> > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Narcis Garcia <informatica at actiu.n
> > et> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Why Ubuntu Gnome project abandoned main principle to be «mostly
> > > pure
> > > GNOME desktop experience» and then the project abandoned project
> > > itself?
> > > 
> > > I think an Ubuntu GNOME (real) flavour has fully sense today, and
> > > it
> > > seems even easier to maintain.
> > Thank you for your comments. We probably should have put out a blog
> > post to explain things a bit more when 17.10 was released, but
> > here's
> > a draft of what that would say…
> > 
> > If there was a separate Ubuntu GNOME, then it would be much easier
> > for
> > mainline Ubuntu to drift further and further away from GNOME. We
> > have
> > merged our efforts to help "keep them honest", to push for Ubuntu
> > to
> > stick closely with GNOME.
> > 
> > Ubuntu 17.10 diverges from stock GNOME in a few ways: a different
> > theme, a Dock by default, and preserving legacy status icons
> > through
> > the App Indicator extension. Each of those choices are very
> > popular.
> > Recognizing that the theme's implementation isn't as good as it
> > could
> > be, community designers are working with Canonical on a theme
> > refresh
> > this year.
> > 
> > There is one other divergence: Ubuntu has made some different app
> > choices than Ubuntu GNOME did. I think it's worth mentioning that
> > even
> > Fedora includes Firefox, Rhythmbox and Shotwell by default instead
> > of
> > the GNOME alternatives. We could have a long conversation about why
> > Ubuntu has the default apps it does, but in general it's a pretty
> > good
> > selection.
> > 
> > It is extremely easy to get a default GNOME Shell by installing
> > gnome-session  then reboot and pick GNOME from the gear menu after
> > choosing your name on the login screen. If you prefer the app
> > selection and a few tweaks from the old Ubuntu GNOME, install
> > vanilla-gnome-desktop  . [1]
> > 
> > Ubuntu GNOME developers are continuing the same work we started
> > over 5
> > years ago. It is because of Ubuntu GNOME's efforts that it is so
> > easy
> > to run stock GNOME on Ubuntu. It is even better in 17.10 than in
> > 17.04
> > (a particular new feature are per-desktop overrides to allow users
> > to
> > get good defaults based on the desktop they log into).
> > 
> > Just today, GNOME To Do was added to the default install for 18.04
> > and
> > GNOME Characters replaced the older Character Map. [2] This week,
> > we
> > dropped downstream Unity anti-headerbar patches from 6 core GNOME
> > apps. We are pushing our packaging work into Debian (which is now
> > at a
> > historically high level of synchronization). We are pushing bug
> > fixes
> > and improvements directly into GNOME.
> > 
> > I believe Ubuntu GNOME's vision has always been about merging the
> > most
> > popular Linux desktop with the most popular Linux distribution. In
> > my
> > opinion, creating a separate distro/release now would only weaken
> > what
> > we've accomplished and what we can build together in the future.
> > 
> > 
> > [1] ubuntu-gnome-desktop is now a transitional package depending on
> > ubuntu-desktop and gnome-session to get most former Ubuntu GNOME
> > users
> > back to mainline Ubuntu so they can get a full 5 years support.
> > [2] https://community.ubuntu.com/t/gnome-to-do-installed-by-default
> > /3608
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jeremy Bicha
> >