Slack
Narcis Garcia
informatica at actiu.net
Sat Feb 27 11:03:48 UTC 2016
GNU/Linux works better because of permanent community survey and
discussion. It's not possible with closed source tools.
El 27/02/16 a les 11:44, Alfredo Hernández ha escrit:
> Some people choose GNU/Linux because it works better, simple as that.
> The purpose and inception of Ubuntu GNOME was not to offer a free
> desktop, but a desktop that works better than the alternatives.
>
> On 27 Feb 2016 11:30 am, "Narcis Garcia" <informatica at actiu.net
> <mailto:informatica at actiu.net>> wrote:
>
> Tim, you are discussing basic principles that concern Ubuntu and Gnome
> projects too.
>
> IT freedom is very important for people: to control and decide what your
> devices do with your data and communications. Privative software
> (gratuitous too) acts the same way as privative services (gratuitous
> too); then I want to put at same level the choose of freedom of software
> and freedom of services.
>
> Why do many people choose GIMP instead of Adobe?
> Why do many people choose HTML instead of Flash?
> Why do many people choose mailing lists instead of hosted forums?
>
> Why do we choose Ubuntu and Gnome instead of Windows (embedded too)?
>
>
> El 27/02/16 a les 10:39, Tim ha escrit:
> >
> >
> > On 27/02/16 20:19, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> >> People is discussing two completely different focuses:
> >> Freedom and Gratuity.
> >>
> >> These kind of services (they are services, not software products)
> >> gratuity is ever incompatible with freedom (considering personal
> data as
> >> a monetary value to trade with).
> > Yes, I am not a fan of further fragmenting the comms channels, but
> people ask for these things, and I guess if it takes off, it could
> be better.
> >>
> >> I prefer GNU/Linux (including Ubuntu and Gnome) than Windows or MacOS
> >> because of freedom matter, including better control over my
> contacts, my
> >> documents and logs, my localization, preferences, activities, etc.
> > Freedom comes at a cost, GPL is like a cancer, while it really got
> the whole open source movement going, these days it seems to cause
> more harm
> > than good. I predict it will be obsolete in 10 years. I think in
> the long term the more permissive BSD/MIT licenses will win out, but
> that is
> > just my opinion.
> >>
> >> Services with AGPL licenses concern this matter too.
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_under_the_GNU_AGPL
> > It should be pretty clear by now that open standard services are a
> non-starter look what happened to XMPP, look at what github has done
> > proprietry extensions.
> >
> > Then consider the AGPL is incompatible with GPL, GPLv3 is a mess
> and incompatible with GPLv2. Its a minefield out there, The freedom
> that GNU
> > promotes is costing more than the actual freedom gained.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> El 27/02/16 a les 06:18, Khurshid Alam ha escrit:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Slack is quite efficient I think. You can have moderated
> channels and
> >>> public channels (still requires a slack id though). It is always
> better
> >>> to go with something that have some sort of notification systems for
> >>> mobile and desktops. Free service includes browsing 10k most recent
> >>> messages (rest are archived). Shouldn't that be enough?
> >>>
> >>> Btw, is there a telegram group for Ubuntu-Gnome? I couldn't find
> it. May
> >>> I also join?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Leo Francisco
> <lists at boywithwings.co.uk <mailto:lists at boywithwings.co.uk>
> >>> <mailto:lists at boywithwings.co.uk
> <mailto:lists at boywithwings.co.uk>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for that Popey. Will have a play with Mattermost when
> I get a
> >>> chance.
> >>>
> >>> We should have a look at this, even if it's just for fun.
> >>>
> >>> Leo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 19/02/16 13:32, Alan Pope wrote:
> >>> > On 19 February 2016 at 13:14, Leo Francisco
> <lists at boywithwings.co.uk <mailto:lists at boywithwings.co.uk>
> <mailto:lists at boywithwings.co.uk <mailto:lists at boywithwings.co.uk>>>
> wrote:
> >>> >> There are open source alternatives that may be worth
> exploring
> >>> >> MatterMost and RocketChat. There's so much hype around
> Slack atm, not
> >>> >> sure what the long term viability of it is. It's
> basically fancy modern
> >>> >> proprietary IRC.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I would always be more enthused by an open source
> solution for the usual
> >>> >> reasons.
> >>> >>
> >>> > On the community team we've been evaluating some of these
> new /
> >>> > fashionable / interesting methods of communication. Slack
> is already
> >>> > available at the following URL, but requires an @ubuntu or
> @canonical
> >>> > email address I believe. It might be possible to be
> invited to join if
> >>> > you don't have one of those though, they're just the
> pre-configured
> >>> > domains I believe.
> >>> >
> >>> > http://ubuntu.slack.com/
> >>> >
> >>> > We've also been looking at Mattermost, which is a free
> software tool
> >>> > very much like Slack. I spun up a test instance at the
> following URL
> >>> > which people are welcome to play with:-
> >>> >
> >>> > https://mattermost.popey.com/ubuntu/
> >>> >
> >>> > No guarantees it will stay up, as we're just evaluating
> it, but feel
> >>> > free to join and have a poke around or make a channel for your
> >>> > team/group.
> >>> >
> >>> > Cheers,
> >>>
> >>>
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