Slack

Alfredo Hernández aldomann.designs at gmail.com
Sat Feb 27 10:44:51 UTC 2016


Some people choose GNU/Linux because it works better, simple as that. The
purpose and inception of Ubuntu GNOME was not to offer a free desktop, but
a desktop that works better than the alternatives.
On 27 Feb 2016 11:30 am, "Narcis Garcia" <informatica at actiu.net> wrote:

> Tim, you are discussing basic principles that concern Ubuntu and Gnome
> projects too.
>
> IT freedom is very important for people: to control and decide what your
> devices do with your data and communications. Privative software
> (gratuitous too) acts the same way as privative services (gratuitous
> too); then I want to put at same level the choose of freedom of software
> and freedom of services.
>
> Why do many people choose GIMP instead of Adobe?
> Why do many people choose HTML instead of Flash?
> Why do many people choose mailing lists instead of hosted forums?
>
> Why do we choose Ubuntu and Gnome instead of Windows (embedded too)?
>
>
> El 27/02/16 a les 10:39, Tim ha escrit:
> >
> >
> > On 27/02/16 20:19, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> >> People is discussing two completely different focuses:
> >> Freedom and Gratuity.
> >>
> >> These kind of services (they are services, not software products)
> >> gratuity is ever incompatible with freedom (considering personal data as
> >> a monetary value to trade with).
> > Yes, I am not a fan of further fragmenting the comms channels, but
> people ask for these things, and I guess if it takes off, it could be
> better.
> >>
> >> I prefer GNU/Linux (including Ubuntu and Gnome) than Windows or MacOS
> >> because of freedom matter, including better control over my contacts, my
> >> documents and logs, my localization, preferences, activities, etc.
> > Freedom comes at a cost, GPL is like a cancer, while it really got the
> whole open source movement going, these days it seems to cause more harm
> > than good. I predict it will be obsolete in 10 years. I think in the
> long term the more permissive BSD/MIT licenses will win out, but that is
> > just my opinion.
> >>
> >> Services with AGPL licenses concern this matter too.
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_under_the_GNU_AGPL
> > It should be pretty clear by now that open standard services are a
> non-starter look what happened to XMPP, look at what github has done
> > proprietry extensions.
> >
> > Then consider the AGPL is incompatible with GPL, GPLv3 is a mess and
> incompatible with GPLv2. Its a minefield out there, The freedom that GNU
> > promotes is costing more than the actual freedom gained.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> El 27/02/16 a les 06:18, Khurshid Alam ha escrit:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Slack is quite efficient I think. You can have moderated channels and
> >>> public channels (still requires a slack id though). It is always better
> >>> to go with something that have some sort of notification systems for
> >>> mobile and desktops. Free service includes browsing 10k most recent
> >>> messages (rest are archived). Shouldn't that be enough?
> >>>
> >>> Btw, is there a telegram group for Ubuntu-Gnome? I couldn't find it.
> May
> >>> I also join?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Leo Francisco <
> lists at boywithwings.co.uk
> >>> <mailto:lists at boywithwings.co.uk>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     Thanks for that Popey. Will have a play with Mattermost when I get
> a
> >>>     chance.
> >>>
> >>>     We should have a look at this, even if it's just for fun.
> >>>
> >>>     Leo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     On 19/02/16 13:32, Alan Pope wrote:
> >>>     > On 19 February 2016 at 13:14, Leo Francisco <
> lists at boywithwings.co.uk <mailto:lists at boywithwings.co.uk>> wrote:
> >>>     >> There are open source alternatives that may be worth exploring
> >>>     >> MatterMost and RocketChat. There's so much hype around Slack
> atm, not
> >>>     >> sure what the long term viability of it is. It's basically
> fancy modern
> >>>     >> proprietary IRC.
> >>>     >>
> >>>     >> I would always be more enthused by an open source solution for
> the usual
> >>>     >> reasons.
> >>>     >>
> >>>     > On the community team we've been evaluating some of these new /
> >>>     > fashionable / interesting methods of communication. Slack is
> already
> >>>     > available at the following URL, but requires an @ubuntu or
> @canonical
> >>>     > email address I believe. It might be possible to be invited to
> join if
> >>>     > you don't have one of those though, they're just the
> pre-configured
> >>>     > domains I believe.
> >>>     >
> >>>     > http://ubuntu.slack.com/
> >>>     >
> >>>     > We've also been looking at Mattermost, which is a free software
> tool
> >>>     > very much like Slack. I spun up a test instance at the following
> URL
> >>>     > which people are welcome to play with:-
> >>>     >
> >>>     > https://mattermost.popey.com/ubuntu/
> >>>     >
> >>>     > No guarantees it will stay up, as we're just evaluating it, but
> feel
> >>>     > free to join and have a poke around or make a channel for your
> >>>     > team/group.
> >>>     >
> >>>     > Cheers,
> >>>
> >>>
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