Call for a meeting (Gobby)
Narcis Garcia
informatica at actiu.net
Wed Jul 29 11:05:04 UTC 2015
I feel meetingology plugin as a good minutes plugin for command-line
style meetings.
Gobby in minutes (or other documents) is more text-free editor, then
people must deploy structured conclusions from the mind to the minutes,
but doesn't need written commands nor hierarchical roles.
My experiences say that it's much better a text meeting than anything
with audio/video because:
- Audio/video introduces setup time at meeting begin (ever)
- Audio/video has higher internet and computer requirements
- Audio/video skips rational & conceptual format of each participant's
messages.
- Audio/video is slower for same said message lengths
- Audio/video REGUIRES everybody to have same level of stream & acoustic
eficiency to hear everything what is said, and to talk and be heard.
- Audio/video is difficult for some people to express quickly and clear
what is thinking, and to react well to other's interventions.
- Audio/video requires everybody's silence to attend 1 person, and
cannot prepare own message in the meanwhile -> slower meeting.
- Audio/video requires more learning time and tasks for each participant.
El 29/07/15 a les 12:21, Charlie Moss ha escrit:
> I feel that a recorded video meeting is the only solution. There is so
> much misunderstanding with written conversation. Hangouts can record to
> YouTube for later reference or public sharing. The searchability is not
> there, but that's a small price to pay and it could be transcribed if
> necessary.
>
> I know that I am not part of the core team (or any team as I have not
> found the secret entrance yet) so will not be invited to this meeting.
>
> Regards,
> *
> *
> *Charlie*
>
>
>
> On 29 July 2015 at 11:06, Narcis Garcia <informatica at actiu.net
> <mailto:informatica at actiu.net>> wrote:
>
> I attach a small guide for users.
> - It's FOSS (server & client & protocol)
> - Service can be deployed but free channels can be also asked to
> existing collectives.
>
>
> El 29/07/15 a les 12:02, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
> > A chat log isn't a meeting minutes.
> >
> > Better example made with Gobby:
> > http://wiki.davical.org/index.php/Community_Support/Minutes_29June2015
> >
> >
> > El 28/07/15 a les 17:25, Bruce Pieterse ha escrit:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28/07/2015 09:02, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> >>> How will minutes be taken?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> El 27/07/15 a les 18:37, Bruce Pieterse ha escrit:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 26/07/2015 03:59, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Ali/amjjawad
> <amjjawad at gnome.org <mailto:amjjawad at gnome.org>
> >>>>> <mailto:amjjawad at gnome.org <mailto:amjjawad at gnome.org>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello again,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Team Leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams, active members and/or
> >>>>> whoever wish to participate/contribute, may I have your
> attention
> >>>>> please?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is planning time.My time is +10
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have just published:
> >>>>> https://ubuntugnome.org/feedback-time-results/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I know this is late but better late than never.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Feedback and collecting data/opinions is over now. We need
> to move
> >>>>> forward or else, we shall end up, just like the previous
> cycle,
> >>>>> without a proper planning.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, blame me for this if you wish but NO, I am not the
> only one who
> >>>>> is part of this family. We have agreed to work as a TEAM
> and we have
> >>>>> to honor this agreement and show our commitment to it.
> That said,
> >>>>> putting the past a side, let's move on for a better
> future, shall we?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm sending this to the entire list because I hate to hide
> anything.
> >>>>> In fact, we have no secrets to hide on the first place.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Our performance, as a _team_, is REALLY BAD, IMHO.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *
> >>>>> Blame me again for this but also keep in mind, there are other
> >>>>> drivers or team leaders. I just survived a massive storm
> in my real
> >>>>> life. I was this close to lose everything and everyone I
> have in my
> >>>>> life. Thank God, I survived.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When I first joined this project back in 22-July-2013 (YES, 2
> >>>>> years!), I had a clear vision that I didn't keep for
> myself but
> >>>>> shared it with the entire community: to build a
> team/community that
> >>>>> can lead itself without the need to a leader.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sadly, we haven't yet reached that phase/level yet :(
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The good news is: you still have me around whenever you
> need me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Truth is: you need to understand that no one lives forever
> and this
> >>>>> is a digital world, so changes might be much faster than
> real life.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No, I am not leaving. I have just turned 2 years with this
> family
> >>>>> and there is NO WAY to leave unless all of you ask me to
> leave.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, I have so much more to show.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> However, this whole community needs to understand: if we shall
> >>>>> _*not*_ work as one team, things might get worse, much
> worse than
> >>>>> anyone can imagine. I have mentioned that, 2 years ago, to
> Lubuntu
> >>>>> Team. They never listened to me. After I left them, they
> started to
> >>>>> understand what I was talking about. They took some months
> until
> >>>>> they started to take 'some' of my advices. I do hate to
> see Ubuntu
> >>>>> GNOME to face the same thing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tomorrow is Friday, then Saturday and then Sunday. Is it
> possible to
> >>>>> have a meeting during these days? if not, we need to get
> this done ASAP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If Plan A (meeting) will fail, my Plan B is to go for
> 15.10 without
> >>>>> a proper and a clear plan. Why? because we're a team and
> this is a
> >>>>> community project, not a one-man-project.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My time is +10 GMT at the moment.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Should I set the date and time for the meeting and then
> send it?!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sorry, it took me 3 days to get back to this email. Busy real
> life as
> >>>>> always.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Monday, 27-July-2015
> >>>>> I am available from:
> >>>>> 10:00AM +10 GMT timing - until - 2:00PM +10 GMT timing
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> From 4:00PM +10 GMT timing - until 11:00PM +10 GMT timing
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Who can make it for Monday? the meeting should be maximum 60
> minutes,
> >>>>> regardless which platform we'll use.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Should you insist not to have a meeting? then I can present a
> >>>>> one-man-plan then you're free to vote good or bad but I DO
> HATE to
> >>>>> do this. I am looking forward to work with a team ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME
> >>>>> <http://ubuntugnome.org/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sorry again for the short notice.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> @Narcis Garcia
> >>>>> Google Hangout:
> https://www.google.com/intl/en/+/learnmore/hangouts/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME
> >>>>> <http://ubuntugnome.org/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Ali,
> >>>>
> >>>> I think a meeting for Monday (today for me) is to short notice.
> Could we
> >>>> perhaps reschedule for next week Monday or the following Monday (3
> >>>> August)? I'm sure that's ample time for every one who wants to
> attend.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also can we:
> >>>>
> >>>> * Schedule the meeting time in UTC
> >>>> * Use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Meetings/Agenda to gauge
> >>>> interest and possible attendance
> >>>> * Start populating the agenda to discuss items
> >>>> * Use IRC for our first meeting and possibly discuss alternative
> >>>> platforms if any body wants to?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi Narcis,
> >>
> >> Normally with meetingology. You can see an example layout here:
> >>
> http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-05-26-15.30.moin.txt
> >>
> >> IRC logs will also be available.
> >>
> >> Although I'm not sure if meetingology is available for the
> #ubuntu-gnome
> >> channel by default, perhaps some one can confirm if it is enabled?
> >>
> >
>
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