[Artwork] Ubuntu GNOME - the new logo by Patrik Bubak

Mon Jul 27 15:17:04 UTC 2015

Is someone setting up a t-shirt store?  I have created a few t-shirts at
streetshirts.co.uk and they're good quality for the UK market.  It would be
great to have a choice between logo only and name & logo.  Is the logo now
public or is there a specific launch date?

Regards,

*Charlie*

On 27 July 2015 at 16:06, Patrik Bubák <bubapa at privacyrequired.com> wrote:

>  And exactly what makes you think that I am desperate to perform or
> whatever it is that you're imagining in your twisted fantasies? I, like all
> my comrades from the team, are just a volunteers. We're doing what we love
> and we signed up to help. We don't long for the appreciation of the likes
> of yourself. The fact that you're trolling here means obviously that nobody
> needs you where you're probably supposed to be. Man, you're sad existence,
> I give you that.
>
> I think many understand now why exactly was it that you were banned from
> the Kubuntu forum, or whatever it was, and I of course agree with them, no
> doubt, you convinced me about yourself.
>
> Those who talk the most, like in your case, do so nobody notices how empty
> they really are. And you most likely have no one to talk to, so you're
> alleviating your painful existence where it doesn't belong.
>
> Nobody is interested in your nonsense here, so go troll somewhere else,
> because that's what you have shown you are, nothing, nobody, just a troll.
> Just another internet hero and we all know that everyone is an expert at
> everything over the internet.
>
> Adieu loser :)
>
>
> On Mon, 2015-07-27 at 16:20 +0200, Xen wrote:
>
> You know, it starts to feel like
>
> /the new fragrance by ..../.
>
> ;-).
>
> Patrik Bubak is going to be famous.
>
> Hey, enjoy all. Charlie, not so sour. People are having fun doing what
> they do. Perhaps indeed email communication is hard, it is augmented
> by IRC, they say "discussions take place on IRC, decisions on email".
> But it's a tough system. Forums are even a better place, but they seem
> less official. All reason to imagine something better! :D. Perhaps one
> day all of our "gripes" transform into something beautiful. Like this
> logo ;-D. Now I'm dying to install a new version of Ubuntu Gnome with
> the new logo incorporated ;-D.
>
> You know, even the 'trolls' have a fondness to the product. I know it
> is sometimes a bit of 'taking a piss' at the people who seem to do the
> work.
>
> But just remember this:
>
> /It means the guy wants to have a say because he can't find the time
> or ability or opportunity or possibility to actually do something else
> that he would love to do. So all he can do is try to argue on some
> mailing list. Poor bloke. He really wants to contribute, but he can't.
> We see his frustration. We honour his dedication, and his interest. We
> thank him for his allegiance or commitment, at least in spirit, and
> now we get him to shut up because he is nagging us and bugging us and
> we have joy to perform :P./
>
> Yes I apologize. I am so much alone that I am using (currently, just
> today) this mailing list as a bit of a way to share random thoughts.
> While you are trying to use it for work. Consider it my disease. Just
> consider it you are doing me a huge favour not bashing my head in
> instantly ;-).
>
> Communication is hard. It is a challenge in any business, where people
> cannot meet face-to-face. Try to communicate with purely digital
> (text) means. It is hard and introduces delay and misconception. (It
> seems Kubuntu members are trying Telegram, the Russian chat service
> that could replace Whatsapp, but that at least offers security and
> group chats for all platforms. ...).
>
> BACK when I was studying there was a collaborative platform for
> business that was rather expensive and we couldn't use it for long (we
> were just students). It was a very nice system for online
> collaboration. I don't even remember what it was called. In schools
> they use BlackBoard it's not a bad system at all. *I wish there were
> these professional team-based collaboration platforms for
> communication and discussion as well as file uploads etcetera*.
>
> Anyway, gotta role.
>
> Still don't bash my head in ;-).
>
> Regards.
>
>
> Quoting Charlie Moss <charlie at charliemoss.com>:
> > I think a timeout is required by all.>> I'm sure all are aware that people are not being paid. If people's income> depended on this project such an ineffective system of communication would> not be used. From what I can see, people reply to older messages which> creates a different meaning to their words when they appear in the> timeline. There is a fine line between freedom of speech and trolling and> both terms are abused.  Yes, many open source communities are under attack> by freedom of speech / trolling, and only the communities that evolve and> create news systems will survive.>> Regards,>> *Charlie*>>>> On 27 July 2015 at 09:16, Tim <darkxst at fastmail.fm> wrote:>>>>>>> On 27/07/15 13:51, Ali/amjjawad wrote:>> >>> > There was a GOOD reason why I have created these sub-teams.>> >>> > Why? you might ask or wonder even after reading the above link which I'd>> assume you will click on it and have a read ...>> >>> > Because:>> >>> >  1. EACH AND EVERYONE here, who is working as a volunteer and NOT>> getting PAID, is doing a favor to the entire world. YES. We must respect>> >     that, all of us. WE ARE doing this because we love it, period. Yet,>> we are not getting paid. Show more respect to the time invested into>> >     this :)>> >  2. EACH AND EVERYONE here has a specific task to do, specially core>> members.>> >>> > There was a good reason why Alfredo and his team is leading or driving>> the artwork team.>> >>> > There was a good reason why Tim is our head of developers.>> >>> > There was a good reason why I am the community manager.>> >>> > Why do I have to repeat that over and over again? :(>> >>> > If you have any problem with any sub-team or member, do approach ME!>> >>> I'm going to add to this, since the false sense of entitlement that random>> community members seem to have in open source communities is just>> poison. All the team leads, have put significant (and mostly massive>> amounts of) time + effort into contribution to Ubuntu GNOME, and at the end>> of the day, someone needs make the final decisions, they all have a proven>> track record. We can not listen to and accommodate every single>> individuals wants/needs. Can you imagine the mess we would end up in if we>> tried to follow every crazy idea! At the end of the day the Team>> Leads sum up the community input and make the final call, of course there>> will be some that don't like the decisions, but we can't please everyone.>>>> We do listen to community feedback, but so far as the logo redesign goes,>> at this point we are well past the discussion phase. This has been>> ongoing for atleast 6 months, probably more with bits and pieces posted on>> both the main list and the artwork list. There were several proposed>> logos over that time. Patrik's logo was first unveiled in April [1], that>> was the time for these discussion not now (I believe at that time,>> there was no opposition to the logo).>>>> Seriously if people want a say in how Ubuntu GNOME runs or what happens>> etc, then you should join the relevant sub-team and start contributing.>> That is how open source works in the real world, the more you contribute>> the more you get a say in the project. An active subteam member carries>> the weight of probably a 100 users when it comes to decisions like this.>> And again its not we don't listen to our users or comummity, but we>> would end up with a complete cluster fuck if we did what every single one>> wanted.>>>> So on that note, as co-founder of Ubuntu GNOME (and head dev). This is>> going to be our new logo, while I agree it seems a little abstract to the>> uninitiated, the human mind is incredibly good at making associations>> between symbols and words, once someone sees the full logo (with Ubuntu>> GNOME text), they will forever know this is us, even when used just as a>> roundel.>>>> So please all take a step back, think of something constructive that you>> can contribute, and work on that. Make Ubuntu GNOME stronger, not drag>> it into the trolling world of bullshit, that exists across much>> open-source news sites/forums etc.>>>> [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-April/002976.html>>>>>>>> -->> Ubuntu-GNOME mailing list>> Ubuntu-GNOME at lists.ubuntu.com>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-gnome>>>
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