Rolling Release

[Tim]

On 28/11/14 12:03, Martin wrote:
> Ok cool. But i am a little confused as to why the rolling release idea was brought up. I mean it is okay for use for those that are developers
> or like the latest and can handle a bugs and issues arising, but on the other hand your saying that using the devel branch rolling release
> structure is definitely not production ready.
Lots of people want the latest GNOME sooner, without having to use the ppa's. This provides people an option in between, we have thousands of
people using current stable release and gnome3-staging, and I would say in general this would be more stable than that.

Things have changed a lot since the 12.04 and earlier days and for the last few cycles the devel series has quite often been more reliable than
the current. Ubuntu devel is somewhat synonymous to say Debian unstable or testing, where as pre 12.04 Ubuntu devel series was more equivalent
to debian experimental up until freeze. These days we are uploading packages that have had atleast 3 months work via ppa. When I say it might
not be production ready, you probably wouldn't for example want to install it on enterprise machines, but for day-to-day usage it should be fine.
>
> So this leaves me questioning why you guys decided to mention it aside from general awareness. However, from the original email by Ali it
> sounded like you guys were contemplating a rolling release type scheme (at least that is how I interpreted it) but you (Tim) are saying that
> there are no plans. Which is where my previous question came in about the devel branch.
Perhaps Ali could have called it a "semi-rolling release like experience" or something. Obviously we are limited within the confines of the 6
month release schedule, the archive is frozen for 2 months each cycle etc. However you do avoid upgrades, which is really what all the hype
around rolling releases is. Tracking the development releases of GNOME in a rolling release fashion is going to be far less reliable than this.
And the reality is recent GNOME releases havne't really been production ready until about .1 or .2
>
> This leaves me and probably others in a similar situation very confused. I would use a rolling release structure of Ubuntu GNOME for several
> tasks i currently use Ubuntu GNOME for; but majority of those tasks would need it to be production ready.
It simply not feasible to go and fork the entire archive to be able to do what you say. for one the infrastucture is not there and second even
if we did, we wouldn't be able to call it an official production ready release.
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> Martin
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> On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Tim <darkxst at fastmail.fm <mailto:darkxst at fastmail.fm>> wrote:
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>     On 28/11/14 10:01, Martin wrote:
>     > From reading what was put up on the Ubuntu GNOME website, it's a pretty cool idea. I was wondering if you guys (aka the Ubuntu GNOME Team)
>     > would create a separate branch from the devel that basically filters down the bug fixes etc so it could be production ready? Or even
>     possibly
>     > two an Unstable and Stable rolling release branches?
>     There are not going to be new branches, but if you want to think of it in that sense, gnome3-staging is basically the current development
>     branch, vivid is the unstable branch. The stable branch is just the normal official releases.
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>     >
>     > On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 5:46 AM, Fran Dieguez <fran.dieguez at mabishu.com <mailto:fran.dieguez at mabishu.com>
>     <mailto:fran.dieguez at mabishu.com <mailto:fran.dieguez at mabishu.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     On 27/11/14 16:05, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
>     >
>     >         For those who are interested, here is how to do that ;)
>     >
>     >         http://ubuntugnome.org/howto-run-ubuntu-gnome-as-a-rolling-release/
>     >
>     >
>     >     I really like the idea but I have some questions:
>     >
>     >      - how this interacts with gnome-team ppas?
>     >      - who is maintaining this "release branch"? I suppose that are core Ubuntu maintainers?
>     >      - Will the latest GNOME version always be available in this release? I'm a huge fan of testing the latest released version in my box so
>     >     if this release ensures it, I'll be using it.
>     >
>     >     Regards
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