GNOME 3.12

[Tim]

On 28/03/14 08:59, Hashem Nasarat wrote:
> That did indeed clarify a misconception I had, thanks.
>
> So raring (13.04) was the first Ubuntu to not include the latest &
> greatest GNOME release. Raring included 3.6 even though 3.8 was released
> a month prior. So since then Ubuntu has lagged behind GNOME by 7 months.
>
> What I don't understand is why a 1-month lag was do-able until 3.8 since
> I don't think there was anything fundamentally different about the 3.8
> release cycle.
The whole reason this was started was because tracking current 
development release of
GNOME was causing a lot of pain, to some extent this caused by Ubuntu's 
divergence from the standard GNOME stack

You also must understand that while 3.12.0 is the 'official' release 
from a distro point of view its really not ready until
atleast 3.12.1, which leaves it at a few days lag!
>
> I wonder what it would take to get Ubuntu (& thus Ubuntu GNOME) lagging
> behind by 1 month once again.
It will take the core GNOME components to settle down and stabilise. 
Things like GTK+ which completely breaks API
and theming each release.
>
> There's real potential in this since there are /very/ few distros which
> ship the newest GNOME. Having this in the packaging in Ubuntu, and the
> default in Ubuntu GNOME would be a great draw to the project.
>
>
> On 03/27/2014 05:46 PM, Tim wrote:
>> On 28/03/14 01:43, Christian Dysthe wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 17:04 -0400, Hashem Nasarat wrote:
>>>> Well-written; thanks for posting! That being said, I miss the days of
>>>> Ubuntu shipping the most recent GNOME (after a month of integration &
>>>> testing).
>>>>
>>>> Do you think it would be possible to return to the original Ubuntu
>>>> schedule of GNOME release date + 1 month?
>>> This touches on a bigger issue: What is Ubuntu GNOME going to be in the
>>> future? Two options:
>>>
>>> - A remix of stock Ubuntu with Gnome-Shell as desktop based on the
>>> version of Gnome shipping with Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> or
>>>    - A Ubuntu based distribution with the latest version of Gnome
>>> available
>>> provided by the Ubuntu GNOME team.
>> No there is only *one* option:
>>     - An Ubuntu based distribution shipping with the current stable
>> version (which happens to be GNOME-1).
>>
>> I think in general there are alot of misconceptions around what is
>> actually an official Ubuntu flavour.
>> Really it is about building a community around and then maintaining a
>> particular packageset within the ubuntu archives,
>> for us that is GNOME3 desktop, for Kubuntu that is KDE etc... Its not
>> uncommon to see comments like "whats the point
>> of Ubuntu GNOME, when I can just install gnome-shell on Ubuntu", and
>> sure you can do that, but gnome-shell doesnt just magically
>> appear in the archives, it is maintained by the Ubuntu GNOME team.
>>
>>
>>> The second option would mean that what today is the Ubuntu GNOME team
>>> PPA becomes an official repository for the Ubuntu GNOME distribtion.
>>> This would be kind of similar to how Linux Mint Debian Edition and
>>> SolydXK relates to Debian or how Chakra relates to Arch.
>> That is simply not possible since we an official flavour, we simply
>> cannot include PPA's in the default install.
>>> The whole Mir/Wayland debacle is going to force this issue at some point
>>> unless Canonical decided to back off Mir (which I do not think will
>>> happen).
>> There is no debacle here, Ubuntu will use MIR, Ubuntu GNOME and probably
>> debian, KDE etc will be using wayland. Wayland will live in the main
>> Ubuntu archives
>>> For now I'm perfectly happy with Ubuntu GNOME they way it is, so don't
>>> get me wrong. 14.04 will be a great release! :)
>>>> -Hashem
>>>>
>>>> On 03/26/2014 04:28 PM, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kindly read this:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ubuntugnome.org/gnome-3-12/
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S.
>>>>> Link has been shared on all our Social Media Channels.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>>>> *Remember: *"All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>>>
>>>>> Ubuntu GNOME OneStopPage
>>>>> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage>
>>>>> Join Ubuntu GNOME <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved>
>>>>> Test Ubuntu GNOME <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing>
>>>>> Contact Ubuntu GNOME <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs>
>>>>> Download Ubuntu GNOME
>>>>> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>