Ubuntu GNOME Communications [ was: Re: Ubuntu-GNOME Digest, Vol 16, Issue 33]

Sat Jul 5 13:08:22 UTC 2014

Hi there,

On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Amaro Guerra <am.guerra at hotmail.es> wrote:

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First of all, please do NOT reply the digest email, please? and this is for
everyone :) you will never get my attention when you reply to this digest
email. Instead you (and everyone) is required to start a new thread/email
or reply a current on or simply read this:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs#Mailing_List

If communications what we're talking about here, then we should follow the
right procedure and this is for everyone not just you, Amaro :)

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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Communications, Ubuntu GNOME team.
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> Hi, this is my first contribution to this mailing list.
>

Hello and welcome to Ubuntu GNOME mailing list :)

> I joined the Ubuntu GNOME marketing & communications team for two reasons;
> I'm an Ubuntu lover since 2008, and, I have knowledge in marketing and I
> would like to help out, contribute, and push forward the operating system I
> use.
>

This is interesting indeed and good to know :)

> The problem is, I joined, I started to receive the mailing list, but as
> beginner it has been a bit complicated to follow the conversations, give
> some help to others... I've been a bit lost.
>

That is very normal. You see, this is a mailing list. You you need expect
that you might receive emails you'll never understand and you might get
something interesting. That is why we have different sub-teams serving
different areas within this project :)

That is also why each sub-team has its own mailing list :)

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/SubTeams

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Community

> One aim of the communication & marketing team is to recruit new members,
> but why? Is not enough?
>

Ubuntu GNOME community:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved/WhoWeAre

None of those are working here as a full-time paid job not even part-time
paid job. We're all volunteers working for free just because we love what
we do and don't mind to suffer in real life but to draw a smile on
someone's face :) yet, instead of people understand this fact, they blame
us :) but it is okay, we used to it and we're not going to give up :)

> or maybe it's happening that some new members join Ubuntu GNOME, and
> seeing the 'mess' and the lack of help to be introduced, they are not able
> to give their help at all...
>

Normal is an illusion, my friend. What is normal for the spider is chaos
for the fly :)

When you state 'mess', you do need to give examples :)
I see no mess. But that is me.

Maybe because you're new to the list so you think it is a mess?

Have you ever asked for help and help was not received? have you actually
read our guide/wiki pages before you send this email? I guess not :)

> Maybe is only my case, but a possible solution to solve this, create an
> stronger developer's community around Ubuntu GNOME, and transform bank
> members into active and helpful ones, is to change the way the people is
> accepted and introduced in the teams.
>

I don't see anything broken to begin with :)

> I can give an idea, I would like to hear more or even somebody telling me
> that I'm wrong and that is only happening to me.. but implementing a
> -brotherhood- system (or your favourite name), where any new member is
> introduced by an old one, taught the basics, and supported in the first
> steps could be a good improvement, having a more efficient, quick to learn,
> active, and supportive team.
>

I'm afraid you're wrong and it is happening for you as a new one here but
that is very normal and usual. It is not the end of the world, that is why
we are here to help whenever needed as long as we do have enough time to
read and reply emails.

I believe our wiki pages are solid enough to give an idea of what we
usually do within this community. You need to 'read' that first ;)

> The 'masters' can easily delegate simple tasks, and the organization can
> be more flexible. Maybe I'm purposing this idea because I really don't know
> what about is all of this. Anyway, I think is a good debate to be
> considered, related with the internal communication.
>

I highly respect your opinions or feedback but it is much less simple than
that. Don't worry, you just need time :) you remind me of me 4 years ago
when I joined Lubuntu Team. I was seeing everything as a REAL MESS, the
exact same 'term' you used :D

It took me extra hours, lack of sleep, blood, tears and sweat until I
managed to find my way and start running instead of walking.

This wiki of mine wasn't built over night, it took me 4 years to reach to
this level:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad

Can you possible achieve that on your own as I did? YES indeed you can. It
requires faith + hope + ambition.

If you have these 3 elements, then you're on the right place. If you do
need help, feel free to shout for it and I'm always here :)

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> Best regards, Amaro.
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Thank you!

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