No Canonical spying left in Ubuntu GNOME?

João Santana joaosantana at outlook.com
Wed Feb 5 18:06:26 UTC 2014


No, isn't very hard at all, since it needs just a command line to disable all of shopping scopes.

João Santana
Enviado pelo meu Windows Phone
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De: Christian Dysthe<mailto:cdysthe at gmail.com>
Enviada em: ‎05/‎02/‎2014 13:56
Para: Ubuntu GNOME List<mailto:ubuntu-gnome at lists.ubuntu.com>
Assunto: Re: No Canonical spying left in Ubuntu GNOME?

On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 10:18 -0600, David B Yentzen wrote:
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> Hello Christian,
>   While I can respect your desire to leave Ubuntu due to privacy
> concerns, I do take strong issue with your characterization of such
> features as spyware. You may wish to spend some time acquainting
> yourself with what constitutes spying. That said, there are several
> ways to deal with it. There exist a fairly large body of resources
> that allow you to turn off, disable, or completely remove the shopping
> features and Dash features in Unity that you do not care to use.  You
> simply need to a little leg work.
>   I do, however, agree with you that Canonical would better serve its
> user base by, a: informing the end user of features during install and
> b: making opt-out by default.
> By the way, you may wish to be more concerned about the use of
> Zeitgiest than features that Canonical informs you about and then
> tells you how to disable.

As I said in another response my main concern is not privacy/security
but rather all the noise created on my desktop by the Amazon.com and
whatever else they put out there when you search or open applications
and documents through the HUD in Unity.

I do not really care what it's called. Give it a better name and I will
use it! :) However, it is data based on my behavior on my machine being
sent to someone else who then try to sell me something based on that
data. I do not mind that they try to make a buck, but the way this is
done that doesn't work for me.

I also think that it shouldn't be enabled by default. It could be an
option during installation just like proprietary codecs and such is in
Ubuntu. Likewise you should be able to remove/disable it easily. In
Ubuntu 13.04 you could get rid of it by removing a couple of packages.
Not so in 13.10 where it is very hard to to get rid of it:

http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/how-to-disable-amazon-shopping.html

That fact is what really got me irritated and use the term "spyware". On
top of that making it even more annoying is that if you disable some of
the results after a while they are enabled again. I haven't spent time
on finding out how it happens, but I do not like that it does.

Oh, and I like Zeitgeist as long as it stays local. I do not want to
disable it to get rid of external search results. Or to rephrase that: I
should not have to do that! :)

>
> Abidingly,
> David
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014, at 07:43 AM, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Christian Dysthe <cdysthe at gmail.com
> <mailto:cdysthe at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi :)
> >
> >
> >
> >     One of my main reasons for leaving stock Ubuntu for Ubuntu GNOME
> was the
> >     spying and sales pitches through the HUD in Unity. I couldn't
> find a way
> >     to get rid of it all. I do like Gnome Shell a lot but there are
> aspects
> >     of Ubuntu I would not like to give up (like PPA access) so
> Ubuntu GNOME
> >     was as close as I could get to what I had.
> >
> >     One question I have though is whether all of the spyware like
> additions
> >     to stock Ubuntu is gone in Ubuntu GNOME (as long as I do not add
> any
> >     Unity related packages to my system)?. I just would like to have
> >     confirmed that Ubuntu GNOME is clean in this regard.
> >
> >
> > We're not using (obviously) Unity, hence the name of our system
> (Ubuntu GNOME).
> >
> > Linux supposed to be secure and has no such thing as spying :)
> >
> > I am not really sure from where exactly that came from? seems to me
> a cheap joke by Linux hater who are trying to shake the solid ground
> but that is my personal opinion.
> >
> > I'm not expert in Security but if you're too much worried about
> spying stuff, you shouldn't use Facebook or any other Social Media
> Network. In fact, there is nothing 100% secure over the Internet. I'm
> sure you're following the news :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     It's a phenomenal distro btw. Love it so far! :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your feedback.
> >
> > Ubuntu GNOME is indeed a great system :)
> > Enjoy!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >     //Christian
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