Dual booting

Tue Sep 10 13:12:11 UTC 2013

I have been successfully installing Ubuntu and windows on people's computer since last two years. In fact in my town, I am known to be good at in dual booting ubuntu and other windows flavor. Dual booting is reasonably good in the sense that gamers and high graphics designers can effectively make use of their sofwares without any hinderance unlike virtual machines where heavy sofwares use to be too slow or even not work at all. My advice is people should dual boot if they are going to be using heavy softwares on windows. In order to install your dual boot OS , two primary partitions are NOT advice. I can expantiate if the need arise.
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Today's Topics:

   1. Dual-booting with Windows - general info (Erick Brunzell)
   2. Re: Dual-booting with Windows - general info (Ali Linx (amjjawad))
   3. Re: Blue text on gray background hard to read (Alfredo Hern?ndez)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 05:51:38 -0500
From: Erick Brunzell <lbsolost at yahoo.com>
To: Ubuntu GNOME <ubuntu-gnome at lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Dual-booting with Windows - general info
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I'll grant you that dual-booting with Windows up through XP was fairly
easy, but even about 20% of puters that shipped with Vista used 4
primary partitions by default.

That increased to about 80% with Win 7, and while it's still possible
it's definitely problematic.

I've only seen a few Win 8 puters but they've all used 4 primary
partitions by default ............. that makes installing Linux in a
dual-boot almost impossible!

I'll grant you that it is possible but quite often one of the primary
partitions is a data partition that can be copied to an external drive
and then copied back to an extended/logical partition, but it's quite a
technical project, and if the user restores Windows using the installed
restoration partition they'll lose all of the data in their Linux
install!!!!!!!

IMHO it's just not reasonable to give any advice on dual-booting with
Windows 7 or Windows 8, but if I did give any advice the first step
would be to say, "Use Windows own disk utility and see how many primary
partitions exist, if there are 4 just forget about it and consider a VM"!

Just my opinion,

Lance

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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:00:21 +0400
From: "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <amjjawad at gmail.com>
To: Erick Brunzell <lbsolost at yahoo.com>
Cc: Ubuntu GNOME <ubuntu-gnome at lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: Dual-booting with Windows - general info
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On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Erick Brunzell <lbsolost at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'll grant you that dual-booting with Windows up through XP was fairly
> easy, but even about 20% of puters that shipped with Vista used 4
> primary partitions by default.
>
> That increased to about 80% with Win 7, and while it's still possible
> it's definitely problematic.
>
> I've only seen a few Win 8 puters but they've all used 4 primary
> partitions by default ............. that makes installing Linux in a
> dual-boot almost impossible!
>
> I'll grant you that it is possible but quite often one of the primary
> partitions is a data partition that can be copied to an external drive
> and then copied back to an extended/logical partition, but it's quite a
> technical project, and if the user restores Windows using the installed
> restoration partition they'll lose all of the data in their Linux
> install!!!!!!!
>
> IMHO it's just not reasonable to give any advice on dual-booting with
> Windows 7 or Windows 8, but if I did give any advice the first step
> would be to say, "Use Windows own disk utility and see how many primary
> partitions exist, if there are 4 just forget about it and consider a VM"!
>
> Just my opinion,
>
> Lance

Hi Lance,

Thank you so much for your email.

This email bring back lots of nice and good memories. I remember when I
first started to contribute to Linux, that was on Ubuntu Forums with some
HOWTOs and Guides[1]. I was also giving great deal of support [2] regarding
Dual-Booting but at that time, it was mainly for Windows XP. And, when
Windows 7 was there, I was already involved with other things and my
attention on supporting Dual-Booting Issues became less. Now, I am no
longer interested in this, simply because, I am putting all my strength and
skills to support Linux and only Linux.

Thanks for bringing back these wonderful memories and I am sure you,
oldfred and other good people on Ubuntu Forums are, as always, helping with
these issues :)

[1] - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1649050

[2] - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1812877

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:57:48 +0200
From: Alfredo Hern?ndez <aldomann.designs at gmail.com>
To: Tim <tim at feathertop.org>, Lance <lbsolost at yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Blue text on gray background hard to read
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Lance,

This is how it will look in the final version (it should be available
pushed to the daily images soon).
http://cl.ly/image/0K450h1B1Y1m

Regards

On 7 September 2013 07:43, Tim <tim at feathertop.org> wrote:

>  Hi Alfredo,
>   You can reproduce contrast issue with the following command.
>
>  plymouthd; plymouth --show-splash ; plymouth display-message --text="bad contrast test"; for ((I=0; I<10; I++)); do plymouth --update=test$I ; sleep 1; done; plymouth quit
>
> Tim
>
>
> On 07/09/13 11:30, Tim wrote:
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> On 07/09/13 09:43, Alfredo Hern?ndez wrote:
>
> Oh, thanks. I suspect, then, that casper settings is one of those
> automagically generated files (as a non-technical guy) that take advantage
> of other packages config. For instance, grub uses the colour configurations
> set in Plymouth. I'm quite sure this involves syslinux or plymouth, as they
> are the only packages I have set to show that shiny blue text (#0087ED).
>
> Plymouth is within the squashfs and would run before the persistent
> filesystem overlay is loaded. The only way to edit that would be unpack,
> change files and then repack.
>
> I don't see anything in casper that touches plymouth theme.
>
>
>
> On 6 September 2013 23:30, Erick Brunzell <lbsolost at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 09/06/2013 02:11 PM, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
>> > On 6 September 2013 13:54, Alfredo Hern?ndez <
>> aldomann.designs at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> BTW, does anybody know where are Plymouth files located at the
>> LiveUSB? I
>> >> mean, I can change syslinux and test it anytime I want, but I have no
>> clue
>> >> about how to do it with Plymouth (which, I believe, handles the text
>> colour
>> >> we are talking about).
>> > Our plymouth themes are part of ubuntu-gnome-default-settings.
>> >
>> > From
>> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-gnome-default-settings/
>> > Click on the most recent upload number (13.10.8)
>> > Click i386
>> > Click buildlog
>> > Near the bottom of the build log is the list of files installed by the
>> packages.
>> >
>> > Jeremy
>> >
>>  I suspect that these particular fonts (regardless of size or color) are
>> part of 'casper'.
>>
>> Everything I see post-installation looks fine ............... so I think
>> 'plymouth' is fine.
>>
>> But I have no idea how 'casper' plays with 'syslinux' .............. or
>> 'ubiquity' :^(
>>
>> Just to be perfectly clear:
>>
>> I only see this issue using the live image, NOT an installed Ubuntu
>> GNOME Saucy Beta 1!
>>
>> It does effect other things regarding 'casper' but booting the live
>> image and choosing Check disc for defects is the easiest to reproduce.
>>
>> I notice comments about 'syslinux'. How does that play into 'casper'?
>>
>> Regardless we need not get our panties in a bunch. I think as long as we
>> get this fixed by beta 2 we'll be fine. Otherwise the newest theming
>> looks fine ;^)
>>
>> Alfredo has done a super great job so let's help him wherever possible
>> without creating stress!!!
>>
>> Lance
>>
>> PS: If I didn't make it clear enough I suspect this is related to
>> 'casper'!
>>
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