Time for LTS (was: Re: [Discussion/Opinion] Ubuntu 14.04 LTS To Stay On GTK/GNOME 3.8?)

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Tim <tim at feathertop.org> wrote:

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> On 03/10/13 17:10, Erick Brunzell wrote:
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> On 10/02/2013 10:27 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
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> Hi,
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> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com>wrote:
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>>  Hi,
>>
>>  Whether this is a shocking news or not, I guess I have to share it here
>> and read your opinion about this :)
>>
>> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/ubuntu-1404-lts-to-stay-on-gtkgnome-38.html
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>>  Read the link carefully before replying :)
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>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>>   Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>> Best Regards,
>>  amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
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>>
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>  If this decision is true and they will go for it, then I see NO valid
> reason why not have Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 as an LTS release?!
>
>  There will be no official Ubuntu GNOME LTS Release, we simply don't have
> the man power to commit to maintaining it. We will however make a best
> effort to provide support and updated packages where possible.
>

I've been there, I got the T-Shirt. Lubuntu Team has to go through the very
same long discussion 2 years ago with 12.04 Cycle and Julien said exactly
the same.
However, Lubuntu and Ubuntu GNOME are way too much different in almost
everything except the core system and repositories. Having that said, why
not take advantage that Ubuntu is planning if not already made their mind
to stick to GNOME 3.8 for their upcoming LTS Release (14.04)?

While many users of Ubuntu GNOME wants the latest, I am sure they won't
mind an LTS Release :)

Just a thought :)



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>  I am NOT a developer but the packages that we will maintain shouldn't be
> much. That could be the bright/good side of Canonical Plan/Thought.
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> Now, the downside of it:
>  A side of the name, what is the differences between Ubuntu 14.04 and
> Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 in this case? do we have to release 14.04 if Ubuntu
> 14.04 will use GNOME 3.8 which is the same what will be shipped with Ubuntu
> GNOME 13.10?
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>  Its really not an issue for Ubuntu, the GNOME stack makes up a pretty
> minor part of the Ubuntu DE. From the Ubuntu GNOME side its going to have a
> much greater effect, in that it will really be just a 13.10.1 release.
> Without an updated GTK there is very little we can update to 3.10. So
> really it will just be getting the last few 3.8 components in (like
> gnome-control-center and webkit/ephipany). I don't suppose much else would
> be blocked so things like kernel, firefox, libreoffice and most other apps
> (just nothing GNOME specific) should see updates.
>

But again, if the majority of our community want an LTS release, and taking
advantage of Ubuntu-Team's decision, why not?

The point is to have stable release and that is a trade-off with the
'latest' packages :)



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> Anyway there will be a 14.04 release, it probably won't be particularly
> exciting. It should be rock solid though.
>

If our attempts to insist about having LTS release but of course, it is up
to the developers after all to say their words so if Ubuntu GNOME 14.04
won't be an LTS, what shall we use? GNOME 3.10? or stick to 3.8?

If Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 will not be an LTS + will use GNOME 3.8 by default
then, I am not quite sure how our users will like that?!

Thanks!

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Best Regards,
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