Seriously folks

[Julien Olivier]

Le vendredi 05 avril 2013 à 14:25 -0700, George Farris a écrit :
> There is now no "UP" button in Nautilus?  Seriously, WTF.
> 
> Try this as a normal user.
> 

As a normal user, navigating through the normal local hard disk, the
navigation bar is more than enough (it allows full navigation from the
root to the folder you're viewing).

> Connect to server  - OK right here things begin to break, Nautilus used
> to ask what kind of connection now, who fing knows what kind of
> connections it will handle or even what the syntax is.  Fail!
> 
> Now once connected try go back a folder,  yup you can't do it from the
> GUI can you...? Fail!
> 
> Yes it can be done by Ctrl-L and then deleting the folder with the
> backspace.
> 

OK, that's where your logic fails: you're pretending that a power-user
feature (connecting to a remote server via Nautilus) will be complicated
to a casual user. Well, yes, obviously, it will. But that's not really a
problem because the very concept of remove servers and protocols is
complicated anyway. As for power users, I don't it's that complicated to
use CTRL-L when you've already been able to enter a URI like
sftp://user@host.

> Really what kind of crap is this.  Sorry to be so negative but Nautilus
> used to be so functional and now..  If I didn't already know these key
> strokes and the fact I can put sftp:// in from of the server I'd be
> screwed.
> 

If you need to connect to an sftp:// host, you're probably doing it with
some kind of technical background, or you're being told to do so by
someone who should know how to do it.

> I used to give Linux computers to new users and they were pretty good
> with them but this complete non-discover-ability and removable of the
> most obvious of controls is just plain ridiculous.
> 
> I just put 13.04 on this morning and I'm seriously thinking of going
> back to 12.10.
> 

I think linux interfaces, at the beginning, were trying to make
everything easy for all kind of users, which resulted in cluttered UI
(too many preferences, too many buttons and menu entries), which - in
the end - only made things easy for power users, that knew what did
what. Now, GNOME is focusing more on making things easy for casual
users, and still possible (but a bit more convoluted) for power users. I
think that's the perfect paradigm.

PS: what's funny is that I only ever hear complains from power users
saying that feature XXX is hard to use by casual users (but not to them
power users of course), while casual users themselves hardly ever make
complaints about those same features, because they just don't use
them...