<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> what's AFAIK? i use virtualbox to run photoshop cause i like using cs3.. MeMo wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:e0a36fa80806070911p50225d64x98e30ca6c5d6c551@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">AFAIK CS3 will be supported soon , i already run CS on my ubuntu pc and it works flawlessly <div class="gmail_quote">2008/6/7 Ahmed Toulan <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:thelinuxer@gmail.com">thelinuxer@gmail.com</a>>: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">First things first. WINE Is Not an Emulator, that's actually where the name came form. This is what is called recursive acronym. <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursive_acronym" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursive_acronym</a> >From <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://winehq.org" target="_blank">winehq.org</a> website: "Wine is an Open Source implementation of the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/" target="_blank">Windows</a> API on top of <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.x.org/" target="_blank">X</a>, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.opengl.org/" target="_blank">OpenGL</a>, and Unix." IMHO, WINE is one of the greatest projects ever created for the opensource. It is a really active project (I think there is a release every 2 weeks or something). It made me use LINUX freely and run the windows applications that I can't find replacement for, but of course it's not perfect. If your application is not supported out of the box, u'll most probably fail to use it with WINE. Sometimes you have to do some configuration hacks, other times you have to use native windows DLLs. Also with new releases u might find that your application does not run as with the old version. For newbies who are used to point and click behaviour, they find this really hard to understand. So other projects come along to help with the problem. <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.playonlinux.com/en/" target="_blank">PlayOnLinux </a>is a new opensource project which aim to solve most of these problems. It can make u install different versions of wine. For example if u have a game that runs in wine ver 0.95 and an application that runs in wine ver 0.96 but version 0.96 has some bugs that prevents the game from running. Using playonlinux you can have both versions installed and the game will use 0.95 and the application will use 0.96 . Another benefit of PlayOnLinux is that u can make it install DirectX for you, which is pretty tedious if you have to do it yourself. You can use the user contributed scripts to easily install application. The project is still new and alot is expected in the future. About the Adobe products. Google is supporting wine to make Adobe products run fine on LINUX. Please read this link <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2008/03/flash-cs3-and-photoshop-cs3-running-in.html" target="_blank">http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2008/03/flash-cs3-and-photoshop-cs3-running-in.html</a> Best regards, Ahmed Toulan. <div> <div class="Wj3C7c"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Hassan Ibraheem <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hasan.ibraheem@gmail.com" target="_blank">hasan.ibraheem@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> wine isn't bad, it's an emulator, it tries to "imitate" a thing that it isn't. Solving the problem of cs3 and such software is only half-solution, it ignores the real problem, the fact that Adobe doesn't provide GNU/Linux versions for their software. So, why CS3 is bad in WinE ? because it wasn't made for WinE. It's the same when linux lacked hardware support (the situation is much better now for sure), It wasn't linux, it was the hardware vendors.(for the most part) Some will say "Hey, stop giving excuses for every missing feature", I agree, but seriously, wine developers are solving a problem that they didn't create. and I believe they're doing great for that matter. Is there room for improvement ? yes, I think so. but what would really solve the core problem? continue providing workarounds and emulations for every software vendor that didn't support the OS we want!! or, for the software vendors to respect our choice of the OS we choose ? my suggestions? when u got locked up to such a situation, go with Virtualization solutions, Virtual Box is great, I use it because my college doesn't respect my choice and encourages me to become dependant on a specific software vendor. IMO, I don't consider proprietary cs3 is that critical or inescapable, but that's your decision of course, not mine :) 2008/6/7, tamer elsawaf <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:tego128@gmail.com" target="_blank">tego128@gmail.com</a>>: <div> <div>> ok memo dude :) but i say that really as iam get mad at that time about wine > and crossover to setup cs3 family and i see a German make it on youtube and > nothing help me or google at this point > so i say that as i make xp and ubuntu on my lap and i wanna be on linux yes > i love it as i build my knowledge .yes i think we all know that but what > about cs3 and i wanna know if Mandriva 2008 fix that i will download it > and i wanna know why wine is so bad its badly looking thats really not > relieve anyone > and sorry foll all but i hate wine not linux > and i dont love xp > i love both be on one lap or pc > > </div> </div> > -- > Ubuntu-eg mailing list > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Ubuntu-eg@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Ubuntu-eg@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-eg" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-eg</a> > > -- حسن إبراهيم Hassan Ibraheem <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://hasan.ibraheem.googlepages.com" target="_blank">http://hasan.ibraheem.googlepages.com</a> -- Ubuntu-eg mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Ubuntu-eg@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Ubuntu-eg@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-eg" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-eg</a> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> -- Ubuntu-eg mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Ubuntu-eg@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-eg@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-eg" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-eg</a> </blockquote> </div> -- <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://Egyman.wordpress.com/">http://Egyman.wordpress.com/</a> </blockquote> </body> </html>