Changing Ubuntu Egypt group owner

[Ahmed Shams]

On 6 September 2011 02:42, Seif Lotfy <seif at lotfy.com> wrote:

> Dear Shams & Karim,
>
> While I appreciate your dedication to the loco team, here is my take.
> First lets not get the loco-contacts involved in this. (Mesh 3awzeen nefda7
> we negarras)
>
> I will start with Shams,
> Your reply to Karim's mail is terrible and kinda annoying to read. While I
> do not agree with some of Karim's points here is my take.
>
>
>    - If I were someone wanting to join the loco team and reading this
>    reply I would hesitate to even contact you. (take care how you reply). Good
>    people attract good people. Dicks attracts dicks. Sarcasm and irony as well
>    as the tone of your reply indicate the latter.
>    - What will change once the ownership is transferred.
>
>  Good people attract good people, Good Admins guarentee better future :)

>
>    - And who should it be transferred too?
>
> That's not the cause at all.

>
>    - I knew Karim from when the loco team started. I was one of the first
>    back then btw too. I can confirm Karim's dedication. While it might have
>    been less it still does not change the fact he initiated the ubuntu-eg and
>    contributes.
>    - Karim clearly said he would change ownership if this is what the team
>    desires (I admire that but I have something to pick on later on this mail).
>    Explain to me why you are bashing him.
>
> I'm not talking to anyone personally, frankly I feel bad when citing
Karim's name, because I really don't want this to get down to a personal
level, I want to keep talking to him as an Owner only.

As for Karim
>
>    - Dude seriously sending to the loco-contacts is just way below you.
>    Don't make us look bad.
>    - What position are you stepping down from. Clearly your opinion and
>    say does not matter at that point as it used to since as you can see the
>    loco team has revived by people who are dedicated more time for it.
>    - Get back on show interest by reading the mailing list.
>
> We had this issue with leaderships before and you know that so lets learn
> to avoid it. We should get rid of the idea of leadership in a loco team. No
> such thing. Also since when does contributing outside the Loco team not
> count... Seriously you need to change this way of thinking.
>
> No need to change ownership unless someone with a complex really wants to
> see his name up there.
>
> Just my 2 cents
> Cheers
> Seif
>
> I should be very very sorry for replying outside our internal mailing list,
and I am. (I swear I forgot to remove the loco-contacts mail from
receivering mails).

@All Dear Egypt LoCo team, I am very very sorry to you all for speaking
while being pissed off, and I wish Karim understands that this team is
totally new to what he had ever participated in, along time ago.

@Seif, I'm sure that you agree with me that, Dear Karim Fayez is no longer
active for years. Do you agree???

-- 
Apologizes & Regards,
Ahmed
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