Online Meeting
Processing Qbits
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Fri Jul 1 16:52:55 UTC 2011
No need to apologize for the long post, it's an interesting point of
view...here is mine...
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http://computeristgeek.wordpress.com/2011/01/19/privacy/
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Amahdy AbdElAziz <amahdy7 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay so are you afraid from having someone tracking you or keeping a log of
> what you are doing? why should you be afraid from that, are you doing
> something wrong? if you don't want someone know what you are doing then IMHO
> you shouldn't be doing it from the beginning, specially, over the web!
>
> If you want to use a Canonical-hosted mail server instead of Google-hosted
> one, so how can you guarantee that Canonical won't one day keep log of your
> emails, not all of us can buy and configure his own mail server, and if it's
> not a physical server at your home (e.g. you have your own server managed by
> some hosting company) then you can't guarantee that this hosting company is
> not spying on you.
>
> So again if you are doing something wrong then stop doing it, I don't mean
> any of you is doing something wrong, but I'm just explaining my point...
>
> We all need all the time someone to manage some parts of our life, we can't
> do everything all the time, so we need to relay on someone to do that for
> us, for example I can't pen trace all the Ubuntu code to make sure that
> there isn't a back door somewhere, so I have to relay on some others who did
> so (who knows maybe they are paid to stay calm?? ,, I don't care, simply
> because all what I'm doing on my laptop is open to everybody, I have no
> problem on that).
>
> I like Google -for now- because they believe in the Open Source, they
> started many many many Open Source projects along with their patches for
> Open Source projects like the Linux Kernel, the Ubuntu project itself, and
> many other small and big projects (Eclipse, Apache, Mozilla, KDE, Gnome,
> Drupal, and many much more) [[Yes they are still submitting patches for
> Firefox too!]]
>
> I also like the data liberation concept that Google has, the data ownership
> to the user, but I also agree at the end of the day that we should be
> cautious, if we don't like something then we can simply raise our hands and
> let them know and it's proven that they respond (so far).
>
> Personly, I completely understand that any company needs "Money" to survive
> and continue innovation, so I don't mind that Google collect some bucks from
> here and there so that they can deliver the quality that I want. They
> actually helped me a lot with this new product G+, so that I'm finally able
> to have a e-social life.
> BTW, this applied also for SUN, and currently apply also for IBM, RedHat,
> FixedSolutions, and many similar Companies that believe and encourage the
> OpenSource and need to collect some bucks at the same time!
>
> Sorry for the long email, but I'd like also to mention one small
> experience:
>
> - I like the fact that when I post something "Public" at G+, everybody that
> uses Internet can see it, event if he doesn't have a Gmail account. But
> something like Facebook won't show more than my profile picture, some of my
> interests, and a box asking to Sign Up first! (Hey, it's my data that I want
> to share with everybody, not yours to block it from people!!)
>
>
> -- Amahdy AbdElAziz
> http://www.amahdy.net
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 16:04, Haitham El-Ghareeb <helghareeb at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Checking, Thanks.
>>
>> On 1 Jul 2011, at 05:51 PM, Processing Qbits <processingqbits at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> There are a lot that we can do....Don't keep all your eggs in one
>> basket...And there is no need to actually put all the eggs in baskets, some
>> eggs are better kept in the nest
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Haitham El-Ghareeb <<helghareeb at gmail.com>
>> helghareeb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> and there is nothing we can do, right? I wish I can stay away from
>>> facebook, Google +, or twitter but I can't. All my friends, students, and
>>> social life is there now. Just feeling so confused about that. Wanted to
>>> share it here :)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On 1 Jul 2011, at 05:39 PM, "Jonathan N. Hindi" <<jonathan.hindi at gmail.com>
>>> jonathan.hindi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> +Islam Hassan, You are very right :)
>>> --
>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>> *Jonathan N. Hindi
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/7/1 Islam Hassan < <eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com><eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com>
>>> eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com>
>>>
>>>> You forgot to mention the most two scary things about Google: First,
>>>> Google Chrome OS depends completely on the cloud, that means every thing
>>>> related to you is on Google servers. Second Google Android @ home & Google
>>>> Android Open Accessory, Google will control every thing in your house. After
>>>> watching Google IO day one keynote, what I had in mind was Umbrella from
>>>> resident evil and USR's VIKI from I,Robot.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Subject: Re: Online Meeting
>>>> From: <helghareeb at gmail.com> <helghareeb at gmail.com>helghareeb at gmail.com
>>>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 16:29:11 +0300
>>>>
>>>> To: <ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com> <ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>> ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>
>>>> @Ahmed Toulan +1
>>>> Yes this is what I meant, and sorry for the late reply. We are gathering
>>>> to show the evilness of one vendor, that is Microsoft, and there is another
>>>> one 'Google' is trying hardly to catch everywhere it can, OS, Mail, Social
>>>> Media, Web browser, everywhere. That can't be right !!! It's like I'm
>>>> surrounded with Google everywhere, till now no one has anything against
>>>> Google, just I'm so worried that we are being caught.
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Jul 2011, at 05:10 PM, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That's why I believe more in Diaspora
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Ahmed Kamal <<email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com><email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com><email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com>
>>>> email.ahmedkamal at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> um but "Google lets you save a backup of your photos, profile
>>>> information, contacts, circles, stream posts, and Buzz posts to your
>>>> computer" on <https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata><https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata><https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata>
>>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/settings/exportdata doesn't sound too bad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Ahmed Toulan < <thelinuxer at ubuntu.com><thelinuxer at ubuntu.com><thelinuxer at ubuntu.com>
>>>> thelinuxer at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well I think what he meant was that we are doing a different kind of
>>>> vendor locking badro. Like you were locked to the windows platform one day,
>>>> today you'll be locked inside the Google platform. And this is a real
>>>> serious issue if you ask me, a real valid concern...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I didn't get that, would you be so kind as to elaborate more?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Haitham El-Ghareeb <<helghareeb at gmail.com><helghareeb at gmail.com><helghareeb at gmail.com>
>>>> helghareeb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Lets hope not, I'm completely disappointed with this product, not from
>>>> features side, but from the Open Web side, it's really getting serious that
>>>> we are moving from a single Microsoft, to plenty of it!!!
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Jul 2011, at 03:13 PM, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Google is putting up a strong fight against facebook...Diaspora and
>>>> Google+
>>>> I actually have more faith in Diaspora, although it seems that Google+
>>>> will be ready before it
>>>>
>>>> 2011/7/1 Islam Hassan < <eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com><eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com><eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com><eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com>
>>>> eng.islam_hassan at hotmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Right now many of us don't have access to google+, but it's gonna be
>>>> awesome to use it when it goes public.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 14:44:06 +0300
>>>> Subject: Re: Online Meeting
>>>> From: <thelinuxer at ubuntu.com> <thelinuxer at ubuntu.com><thelinuxer at ubuntu.com><thelinuxer at ubuntu.com>
>>>> thelinuxer at ubuntu.com
>>>> To: <ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com> <ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com><ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com><ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>> ubuntu-eg at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Personally I think we might use it in the future
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Processing Qbits <<processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com><processingqbits at gmail.com>
>>>> processingqbits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't have access to Google+ too...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Mohamed El-Feky < <elfeky.m at gmail.com><elfeky.m at gmail.com><elfeky.m at gmail.com><elfeky.m at gmail.com>
>>>> elfeky.m at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1 for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Jonathan N. Hindi <<jonathan.hindi at gmail.com><jonathan.hindi at gmail.com><jonathan.hindi at gmail.com><jonathan.hindi at gmail.com>
>>>> jonathan.hindi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't think that all the team have access to Google+ ?
>>>> --
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>>>> *Jonathan N. Hindi
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Karim Ahmed < <just.azzurri at gmail.com><just.azzurri at gmail.com><just.azzurri at gmail.com><just.azzurri at gmail.com>
>>>> just.azzurri at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think it's a good idea if we organize Online Meeting at Google+ via
>>>> Hangouts :)
>>>> so what's your opinions?
>>>>
>>>> *Karim Ahmed,*
>>>> *Google **student ambassador *
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