ubuntu-education Digest, Vol 37, Issue 5
bmullan.mail at gmail.com
Thu Sep 16 11:28:16 BST 2010
Your email hit a lot of great points regarding schools.
I'd like to suggest a couple more:
- Federated ID Management becomes important in "trust" management (e.g.
org A "trusts" org B, so users at org-B are provided access to org-A) for
access to network, file-server or application resources.
- Here in North Carolina the Universities and the K-12 grades are
moving gradually to a Federated ID management and currently the
open sourceShibboleth<http://shibboleth.internet2.edu/>is what's being
- Shibboleth has been developing as the primary Federated ID
management software among many leading educational institutions
here in the
- Security that's easy to configure and provides logs for certain
- Easy to use and scalable Remote Learning and Video Conferencing
"web-ex" like solution. DimDim for
- Remote Desktop or VDI solution.
- This is tied to Remote Learning
1. There are a lot of possibilities and some I liked were:
2. Remmina <http://remmina.sourceforge.net/> - is a remote desktop
client written in GTK+, aiming to be useful for system
travellers, who need to work with lots of remote computers in front of
either large monitors or tiny netbooks. Remmina supports
protocols in an integrated and consistant user interface.
Currently RDP, NX,
VNC, NX, XDMCP and SSH are supported.
3. x2go <http://www.x2go.org/index.php?id=4> - read about the
project <http://www.linux4afrika.de/x2go/index.html> which uses the
x2go (the website also provides a lot of their configuration
4. and LTSP <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP> always
comes to mind.
- This also needs to be easily managed/supported 24x7 as on-line
school resources will become utilized 24x7 by teachers, students and parents
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:23 AM, <ubuntu-education-request at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:13:50 +0300
> From: Veli-Matti Lintu <veli-matti.lintu at opinsys.fi>
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu in Education resources from Canonical
> To: Edubuntu Dev <edubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>,
> "ubuntu-education at lists.ubuntu.com"
> <ubuntu-education at lists.ubuntu.com>,
> edubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <1283764430.2031.46.camel at punajuuri.liitu.vm.opinsys.fi>
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> It has been really interesting to read all the stories posted here, so I
> thought to share my (and my colleagues) experiences. The message got a
> bit long, so I posted it also in blog for easier reading here:
> As I'm working for Opinsys, a solution provider in Finland, that builds
> systems for schools using Ubuntu, I first thought that this was an easy
> task - just write down a bunch of things and fire it away. But when I read
> the other responses around the world, I realised how little I know
> about Ubuntu usage in schools outside Finland. As that probably holds true
> for others about Finland, here's some background information in
> form of links:
> * http://www.opinsys.fi/en/mista-on-hyvat-koulu-tehty
> * http://www.osor.eu/news/fi-over-a-hundred-schools-using-open-source
> * http://bit.ly/amFiOO (map of schools using FOSS in Finland)
> Every country has its own history and traditions, so many of the little
> things we do to get things working here are probably not needed
> elsewhere. Still many of the general computing trends apply also to
> Finland. Here are some things that come in to my mind in random order:
> * Finnish is a tiny language and there's a lot of local content and
> legacy applications that are needed. Content in English
> language doesn't really help here.
> * There are a lot of video formats and flash content and at least one
> big content provider still uses Macromedia Shockwave for some of it.
> * Many teachers expect content to match the national curriculum.
> * The trend for new stuff is towards online content and web
> * Internet connection speeds in most areas are not a problem. ADSL is
> available everywhere and more and more schools
have fiber connections. There are usually no backup connections,
> though, so the systems must work for a few days or a week without internet
> * Web applications like Moodle are deployed in a lot of places.
> Some are hosting it themselves, some are buying it as a service.
> * As a sparsely populated country we have long distances. As there are
> a lot of little schools that don't have resources to offer a
> lot of options, distance learning is used. This way also the pupils
> in remote areas have the same options as in the bigger
> city schools. Unfortunately there are not too many good tools for
> this. E.g. Adobe ConnectPro is being used in some places,
> but OpenMeetings is gaining interest.
> * In addition to web applications, interactive whiteboards (e.g.
> Smartboards) are being deployed in a lot of schools and many
> schools have them installed in every classroom.
> * Schools have a lot of old computers for which LTSP is a perfect
> * Laptops are getting more and more common, both personal and shared
> ones: http://www.opinsys.fi/en/en-laptops-in-schools
> * Even if wikis, blogs, Google Apps and other online tools are getting
> more common, file based documents and printing are still
> used a lot - easy file sharing and file transfer to/from home are
> * If computers are not reliable and consistent, they are not being
> used at all
> * Students' own mobile devices (= smart phones, etc) are being used in
> schools. Their utilization as tools to e-learning
> systems grows. There will be a need to get access to the same
> information as from computers
> * Teachers show high resolution videos to students. This should always
> * Teaching methods encourage co-operation between schools. Ad hoc
> information sharing is needed as well as formal interface
> between the systems. Security issues and privacy laws are most often
> neglected but they should be seriously considered at
> design phase. Teachers want to "just make it work" and do not pay
> attention to legal issues.
> * Computer labs are gradually being dismantled. Instead computers are
> placed in classrooms, hallways, etc. They are often used as
> a quick tool to communicate or gather information.
> What do these mean for people building their systems with Ubuntu? Here are
> some critical issues that are not always working out-of-the-box:
> * Interactive whiteboards need drivers and features that match
> Windows/Mac versions
> * Every laptop model needs to be tested in person before one can say
> how well they work - no online resource tells enough
> information about the models available in warehouses. Backporting
> drivers is needed quite often to get the newest
> models working with older Ubuntu versions.
> * Web applications require central user database and authentication
> services (LDAP/kerberos/CAS/etc.)
> * Firefox+plugins need to support all newest web applications in
> addition to the oldest sites there are
> * Printing needs to work every time, everywhere
> * Transferring/sharing files within and outside of the school's
> environment needs easy to use solutions
> * Cloud based applications are not suitable for everything (e.g.
> differing privacy laws make it difficult to use some cloud based
> services outside EU)
> * A lot of applications are in universe repository and getting fixes
> and updates for them means usually backporting and patching
> * Applications and the whole system needs to be updated and there
> needs to be good support system in place for end-users in their
> own language. Training is necessary to get people confident with a
> new system and also when there are changes or new features.
> Massive number of devices is not enough if no-one wants to use them.
> Getting everything working right takes some work and it is certainly
> doable, but as a perfectionist I believe that everything can be made
> always better and easier.
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