<div dir="ltr">The wiki paradigm breaks down once its content reaches a certain size. This threshold has been reached a long time ago. Symptoms: sub-standard quality pages; unmaintained pages; the necessity for wiki admin patrols, and finally the vandalism.<div><br></div><div>Is salvaging the wiki *really* worth the effort required I'm reading about in all these email threads?</div><div><br></div><div>Should we not instead think of evolving? Our success appears to compel us to do so.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 5:04 AM, Pasi Lallinaho <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pasi@shimmerproject.org" target="_blank">pasi@shimmerproject.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">We will need much more than one moderator for the team.<br>
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I'm also pretty sure your expectation about the efforts spammers are going to make is false. They will be trying to join the team and will be doing everything they can to get in. Except sustainable, "real" contributions.<br>
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All in all, the moderation will not be any easier, but at least we have a clean state to begin with.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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On 2016-06-10 10:30, Chris Perry wrote:<br>
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People have raised/recapped some interesting points about the wiki -<br>
but my main concern is to allow access to it again. The proposed<br>
method sounds ok to me. popey needs to create the team? We announce<br>
the team's existence and how to join it? We need at least one<br>
moderator to vet applicants? I'm imagining that it won't be worth a<br>
spammer's effort to make even a moderately plausible application to<br>
join, so anyone who makes a moderately plausible application can be<br>
allowed to join?<br>
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On 9 June 2016 at 23:47, Elizabeth K. Joseph <<a href="mailto:lyz@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">lyz@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson <<a href="mailto:gunnarhj@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">gunnarhj@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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I can't help thinking of a consequence of this, which hasn't been<br>
mentioned yet. The community help wiki is huge, and one well known<br>
problem is that it contains a lot of outdated information.<br>
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I believe in the tagging system. I think it's OK to keep old<br>
documentation around until someone comes along to update it as long as<br>
we mark it as such.<br>
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