<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-14 19:24 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomcecf@gmail.com" target="_blank">tomcecf@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">There may be sufficient cause to justify banning the person from doing edits.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Ok, maybe this is too extreme. :D I didn't write in the list to get a bad punishment for a person, I am just trying to understand why the information I added in the wiki has been wiped completely. TBH this was not a very good first impression trying to add some material to the wiki.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">2. No one "owns" any page. Some people have a vested interest in certain pages either through having worked hard on it themselves, or it being an expertise or area of interest. That does NOT give them the right to trash other people's work on 'their' pages!</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Ah nice, good to hear that.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">3. Reconstructing the missing edits. I thought these could be re-done with the click of a button?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, I could revert the material but then I am pretty sure the other contributor would delete it again and maybe also flag me as a kind of spammer. I have nothing to "earn" in insisting to publish my contribution against his will, it was written just to help other people, not to upset a jealous author.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">4. If something can be done but only with considerable effort and/or requiring quite a high level of skill then it might be worth making a sub-page about it. It sounds like something "the average user" might find tooo complicated.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Regarding querying the website for the BIOS version, I believe it's quite easy. But I agree about flashing the BIOS, I was planning to investigate further about extracting the ROM from the executable, however I am a bit busy in this period between organizing Linux Day 2015 in my city and writing the software for my MSc thesis.</div><div><br></div><div>I am not sure if I will have time to finish the investigation soon, I was also writing the information on the wiki so that somebody could start from it to finish the missing step.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">The person who slashed your work to ribbons may have been trying to avoid getting too complicated for "the average user" and may feel "slighted" at your implication that they didn't know.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I understand this idea, however the information I added was currently referring mainly on querying for the newest BIOS version available, not on flashing it.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I hope this can be resolved peaceably</div></blockquote></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>That's why I wrote here.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-14 19:38 GMT+02:00 Alberto Salvia Novella <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:es20490446e@gmail.com" target="_blank">es20490446e@gmail.com</a>></span>:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
You should contact the person who reverted the edition, and try to make decisions slowly in consensus and based in facts as far as possible.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I have already contacted this person but I didn't get any reply. I wrote here because I was suggested to do it by pmatulis in the IRC channel.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Then if there are some point where the consensus has not been possible, then expose it to this list and we all together will decide on it.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>IMHO if a person ignores your email and drops your contribution, he is not exactly keen to reach a consensus.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">If you are too picky about others changing things, then there will be no improvement at all.<br>
</blockquote></div><br>Yes, this would be a good message for a person who was too jealous to let me improve the page. ;)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">2015-10-14 19:45 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomcecf@gmail.com" target="_blank">tomcecf@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:12.8px">The attacks against her</span><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well, maybe not real "attacks" but just some reaction I don't really understand. Technically I am a male (Italian name), but nevermind. :)</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div><div><br></div>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:'Palatino Linotype',Palatino,Palladio,'URW Palladio L','Book Antiqua','Nimbus Roman No9 L',Garamond,'Apple Garamond','ITC Garamond Narrow',Georgia,serif;color:rgb(119,119,119);font-style:italic">Andrea Lazzarotto<br> <a style="color:rgb(51,51,204)" href="http://andrealazzarotto.com" target="_blank">http://andrealazzarotto.com</a><br> <a style="color:rgb(204,51,51)" href="http://lazza.dk" target="_blank">http://lazza.dk</a><br></div></div></div>
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