<div dir="ltr">Yes a wiki is nice to have, but again if man power is an issue why not merge. There are other community sections such as the forums where people can get help as well as IRC, but i feel up to date documentation is really important </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Benjamin Kerensa <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bkerensa@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">bkerensa@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi Jonathan,<br><br></div>Probably not considering the lack of contributors at this time. As it is doc team has a difficult time getting official doc updated and released each cycle.<br>
<br></div>You are more than welcome to solicit help but most of us already have our hands full.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Jonathan Aquilina <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eagles051387@gmail.com" target="_blank">eagles051387@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">is it possible to get help from doc team members to update the wiki with things that have been discussed?</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Tom Davies <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><div><span>Hi :)</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">
<span>They are very different things with different aims that catch different types of people. To edit official documentation you kinda need to be a team-player and communicate with other people and negotiate for the things you would like to see. <br>
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<span>By contrast in the wiki individuals can just go ahead and do
things, even add pages they feel might be of interest to other people or just to themselves. <br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">
<br><span></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span>If a big change happens it's theoretically more likely that the wiki will be updated sooner while the official documentation is still going through various processes. The wiki never gets frozen but the official documentation needs to be frozen so that translators have time to translate without the source of their work being at risk of constant change even mid-sentence. You will see this happen over the next few days and even weeks because the official documentation is about to be (or maybe even has
already been frozen) so we can't make fresh changes now and have to race existing things through if they are nearly complete and/or need to go in. <br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">
<br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">Having the 2 systems is not a duplication of our effort although sometimes effort expended in one has a benefit to the other or makes it easier to fix the other. <br>
</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">Regards from <br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">
Tom :) <br><span></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13.3333px;background-color:transparent;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">
<div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Jonathan Aquilina <<a href="mailto:eagles051387@gmail.com" target="_blank">eagles051387@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Phill Whiteside <<a href="mailto:phillw@vpolink.com" target="_blank">phillw@vpolink.com</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Ubuntu Doc <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 19 September 2013, 6:31<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: wiki vs documentation<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Why dont both get merged? the doc team works with the community etc seeing as man power is scarce?</div>
<div><br><br><div>On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Phill Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:phillw@vpolink.com" target="_blank">phillw@vpolink.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">There are two areas of the wiki system, <a rel="nofollow" href="https://help.ubuntu.com/" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/</a> and <a rel="nofollow" href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community</a> The former is looked after by the doc team, the latter is maintained by the community.<div>
<br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.</div></div><div><br><br><div>On 18 September 2013 22:50, Jonathan Aquilina <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:eagles051387@gmail.com" target="_blank">eagles051387@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">What is the difference between the wiki and the official documentation? wouldnt it be better to grow the official documentation instead of maintain two instances of documentation?<span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all">
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