<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Hi :)<br>in case i didn't say so earlier welcome in chap but i think quite a lot of us here probably feel that you are the longer term person welcoming some of us in. <br><br>Quite a few people here seem very new so it's kinda a fresh team with just enough (hopefully) longer term members. I think the group is already settling in well and there is some good activity going on on-list with some useful discussions about infrastructure while at the same time a fairly healthy amount of real work going on. <br><br>If people want private help with the wiki-editing skills then you can always try me off-list but please don't rely on me making a swift response! Prolly best to try a few people at the same time. I liked Phills links to more formal support but sometimes i think nothing quite beats just rolling up our
sleeves and trying things out with a bit of an occasional nudge from others. i just wish i could easily re-post those links from Phill!<br><br>Good luck all and regards from <br>Tom (just a lurker) :) <br><br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Phill Whiteside <PhillW@ubuntu.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Sergio Meneses <sergioandresmeneses@gmail.com>; "Team, Ubuntu" <ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 15 September 2013, 9:20<br> <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: wiki mentoring<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv1957877014"><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv1957877014gmail_extra"><br><div class="yiv1957877014gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Phill Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv1957877014gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>as one other person has pointed out that there is no real mentoring scheme for people who wish to learn more about wiki stuff, before I had my burn out I was proposing a classroom session after 13.10 to get the work done advertised. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm still on "light duties", but my batteries are recharging. As such I'd be happy to hold such a session which will, hopefully, remove the mistaken view that you have to be 'a higher authority' to actually take part in editing the wiki area and re-enforce the fact that "we were all complete beginners once". </div>
<div><br></div><div>I know people are really busy with 13.10, but the beginners week starts very soon after the release. Sergio, who has taken on TL for lubuntu wiki/docs has a good knowledge already but wants to learn more. As Ubuntu Beginners Team has ceased, it is for the teams themselves to work out a mentor system. If we do not have such a system, how do we ask people to get involved?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Having read the chats on 'manual', I'm sure the same applies. People move on, yet we have no structure to either advertise for new people; but most damning of all.. we have no structure to assist these people.<br clear="all">
<div><br></div><div>The excuse 'the few people we have cannot spend time with new comers' is totally self defeating for any team - that leads to extinction, which is not an option.</div><div><br></div><div>On this area, I cannot give my 10% estimation of success as I did on icons... Failure is not an option.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I know you are all up to your eyeballs in work, but please take a few minutes to reply here as to how this should be structured.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for taking the time to read through this email and my thoughts on how we get more people involved.</div>
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<div><br></div><div>Phill.</div><div><br></div>-- <br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw</a>
</font></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hello Phill, and everyone else :)<br><br></div><div>First of all, allow me to yet again introduce myself.<br><br></div><div>My name is Ali and being 'heavily' involved with Ubuntu Communities for the last 3 years (24/7/365), the best way to introduce myself is to post the link of my Wiki Page: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad</a><br>
<br>Now, what I am trying to explain here?<br>Simply, I'm former Lubuntu Wiki and Documentation Team Leader. Now, I am Ubuntu GNOME Wiki and Documentation Lead. What else? areas of my involvement are: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement</a><br>
<br></div><div> For now, I had to drop 'Support' in favour or:<br><ol><li>Testing</li><li>Communications and Social Media</li><li>Documentation</li></ol>Support was the key to my current skills and experience. It was the gateway to everything. I wish I could have time to go back to something like: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1812877">http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1812877</a> but I can't find the time for it.<br>
<br></div><div>Again, what I'd like to say here:<br><br><ol><li>I do agree with each and every word Phill has highlighted</li><li>Phill is my Mentor/Sensei and he can vouch for me in needed :)</li><li>When it has been decided to shut down Ubuntu Beginners Team, I had a plan to start a new Team but I think the easiest way for that is to have few members from each team to take care of this mission, that is taking the beginners under their wings</li>
<li>I am offering my help and support and I am ready to cooperate with Phill and hold session but for me, I don't prefer IRC, I'd prefer Google Hangout, just like vUDS (had a session with Nicholas) and I don't mind to talk solely or with someone else. I believe visual learning is much faster and better than reading and writing.</li>
<li>In order to spread the word and bring more contributors, and because Social Media is my game, I'd suggest to start new pages on Facebook and Google+ for Ubuntu Documentation Team. If you agree, let me know and I'll be more than glad to create these pages.</li>
</ol><div>I am just like Phill, recharging and not yet on my FULL Speed and/or Power. But, just for everyone here to know, Phill is not alone and he and all of you have gotten my full support and help, just name it.</div><div>Thank you so much!</div>
<div>Well Said, Phill and I am glad that you have chosen this path. No one on Ubuntu Community can question your Wiki and Documentation Skills and Experience and yet again, it is a pleasure to work with you, side by side after we have done so much for Lubuntu for the last 2 years.</div>
</div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0);">Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."</span><br>Best Regards,<br></div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad">amjjawad</a><br>
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