<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br><div>+1</div><div><br></div><div>nicely written up... should be on the wiki somewhere!</div><div><br></div><div>for personal areas on the wiki, yes you still are allowed them, I recently set up <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw/temp_Manual">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw/temp_Manual</a> (Yes, I know I got the name wrong!!!).. that way the team were able to discuss and try things out before it was finally copied over to replace the live page. When it is a long edit, it's always good to have it in a sandbox and ensure everyone knows of its creation, why it is there and takes part in the conversation about what can be quite a major undertaking.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 September 2013 22:26, Little Girl <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:littlergirl@gmail.com" target="_blank">littlergirl@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hey there,<br>
<div class="im"><br>
Martin Dixon wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi :)<br>
> The recent advice has been a great help - it has even encouraged me<br>
> to create some real "bugs";<br>
> my next stage was to progress to implementing the solutions I have<br>
> identified - this step really bugs me!<br>
<br>
> I like the idea of a sandbox - I don't want to damage my own<br>
> system, or anyone else's work (past or current) -<br>
> I have turned up some details to various "boxes" so please could<br>
> someone add some gems on this - which "box" and how?<br>
<br>
</div>I feel a book coming on. Hopefully it's not more than you asked for:<br>
<br>
<book><br>
<br>
I think the sandbox in question was for the Ubuntu wiki. There are a<br>
few ways you can sandbox the wiki:<br>
<br>
- When you're in edit mode, there's a preview button which makes it<br>
so that you can look at your changes while still having the editor<br>
open. This way you can make changes again before doing the final<br>
save on the page.<br>
<br>
- Each user gets their own personal page in the Ubuntu wiki (or at<br>
least they did back when I first signed on), and you can copy the<br>
contents of any page you want to work on into that page and do your<br>
thing to it before putting the changes on the actual page. This can<br>
be especially useful for really long pages that you're doing major<br>
edits to, and will need to spend several days on.<br>
<br>
- You can download a copy of MoinMoin and run it in standalone mode<br>
on your computer (without serving it out on the internet) as a<br>
private wiki. You can create as many new pages as you like and<br>
paste the contents of any Ubuntu wiki page into it to make changes<br>
to it before posting them officially online.<br>
<br>
NOTE: Beware that with the last two methods, someone else may make<br>
changes to the page in question while you have a copy of it in your<br>
online sandbox or in your personal wiki. You'll want to compare the<br>
current contents of the page with your contents for the page when<br>
you're ready to replace them. I highly recommend Meld for this, and<br>
it's available in the package manager.<br>
<br>
If you go with the standalone wiki, you'll want to go to this page in<br>
the Ubuntu wiki to check which version of MoinMoin it's using:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemInfo" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemInfo</a><br>
<br>
Then follow these steps to get it and set it up:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://paste.ubuntu.com/6116557/" target="_blank">http://paste.ubuntu.com/6116557/</a><br>
<br>
NOTE: This is HTML code, so you'll want to download it into a text<br>
file and save it with an .htm or .html extension so you can open it<br>
in your browser.<br>
<br>
==========<br>
<br>
If you were looking for a DocBook or Mallard sandbox, that's any text<br>
file or files anywhere on your computer. You would just follow the<br>
instructions for creating a DocBook or Mallard document from DocBook:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.docbook.org/tdg/" target="_blank">http://www.docbook.org/tdg/</a><br>
<br>
Or Mallard:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://projectmallard.org/" target="_blank">http://projectmallard.org/</a><br>
<br>
Then make sure you have the yelp package installed (I think it's<br>
installed by default in Ubuntu). To look at (and use) any document<br>
you create, type yelp FILENAME in a terminal window, or you can<br>
associate certain file types (like .page) with yelp and double-click<br>
to open them.<br>
<br>
==========<br>
<br>
If you were looking for a Bazaar sandbox, that's any repository<br>
(directory created with the bzr branch command, for example) on your<br>
computer. You can get the Ubuntu repository with a specific branch<br>
command (either a command you found at the top of a Launchpad page or<br>
one given to you by a Documentation Team member). Then use a file<br>
manager or the command line to copy the directory to another<br>
location. Then use that directory as your sandbox to do some<br>
experimenting. You can do many bzr commands without doing any<br>
harm (just avoid bzr push or any other bzr command that puts your<br>
files back onto the Launchpad server). To learn Bazaar, see:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/" target="_blank">http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/</a><br>
<br>
Once you're comfortable with it, I highly recommend making yourself a<br>
cheat sheet with the steps you need to take to "git 'er done" so you<br>
don't forget any when you're not in the safety of the sandbox.<br>
<br>
</book><br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Also points raised today by Doug re lenses suggest that we may not<br>
> all be "singing to the same sheet" -<br>
> the experts obviously know what's going on, but for newbies the only<br>
> real thing is the live system (say 13.04)<br>
> and its associated help docs, etc. Where is Saucy hiding and how to<br>
> find her intimate help docs?<br>
<br>
</div><a href="https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-docs/saucy" target="_blank">https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-docs/saucy</a><br>
<div class="im HOEnZb"><br>
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Little Girl<br>
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