<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Hi :)<br>I tend to think it's harder to post a bug-report than to edit the page, such as to leave a note at the end of the page or just after the bit that didn't work. <br><br>However i am beginning to believe what Jonathon just pointed out. I think perhaps 2 main reason but probably others too;<br>1. even a lot of trained documenters can't cope with coding, even wiki-markup is scary to a lot of folks<br><div><span>2. people are too shy and worry about messing things up if they type in a couple of words into a page</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>< off-topic rant><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family:
verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Perhaps feeling they have to be submissive to some higher authority or something. It drives me nuts. I'd hoped it was just in my country but i'm beginning to think even people in democracies (if there are any) bow to their 'superiors'.<br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span></ off-topic rant><br>
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><new rant><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">It's as though people have never heard of or used wikipedia or wiki's, as though they are all tooo new despite having been around since the last century. <br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"></ new rant><br></div><br>Anyway, the point is that these tags clearly come from a higher authority than an average user so they will give sheeple and
normal users much greater confidence in the pages that are not tagged as being for unsupported versions. It will also give normal users the correct impression, that they can complain to the higher authority and it encourages them to find one of the many ways they could do so. So it benefits 2 groups we need to reach without harming those that already "get it". <br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Regards from <br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Tom :) <br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:
verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Jonathan Aquilina <eagles051387@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Phill Whiteside <phillw@vpolink.com>; Ubuntu Doc <ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, 13 September 2013, 21:20<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Suggestion<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv2869365036"><div dir="ltr">the way things are now you have to work with trial by error with the current state of the docs. At least like this me as an end user can file a bug against the docs team
for a particular page if they notice hey this version doesn't work with the current release can you update it please.<br>
</div><div class="yiv2869365036gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="yiv2869365036gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Tom Davies <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk">tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv2869365036gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;">Hi :)<br>Yes, everyone sees tags. <br><br>I think both ideas have merit. I kinda wish the tag said <br>
<b>Unsupported Version:</b> This article appears to apply to unsupported versions of Ubuntu.<br>or something else less definite that the way it is set at the moment. <br><br>If something definitely only applies to unsupported versions then it should definitely be removed but i think there are a lot of pages where it's unclear or where just a bit of updating or pruning large chunks out might fix the page. However, even so, i think it would be good to use the tag as it is to see if it helps shake things up a bit. <br>
<br>I also quite like Jonathon's idea of listing some of the versions the page is known to work with. I think there are dangers with it but even so it's worth considering
imo. <br><br>Regards from <br>Tom :) <br><br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;">
<div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Jonathan Aquilina <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:eagles051387@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:eagles051387@gmail.com">eagles051387@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Phill Whiteside <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:phillw@vpolink.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:phillw@vpolink.com">phillw@vpolink.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Tom Davies <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk">tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk</a>>; Ubuntu Doc <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, 13 September 2013, 21:05<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Suggestion<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div><div dir="ltr">will tags show up to those that visit the
page? like me a reader and user of the wiki would it show the tags?<br></div><div><br><br><div>On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Phill Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:phillw@vpolink.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:phillw@vpolink.com">phillw@vpolink.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>having just had a new tag [1] added maybe we can use these? </div><div><br></div>
<div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.</div><div>1. <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag</a></div>
</div><div><br><br><div>On 13 September 2013 20:06, Jonathan Aquilina <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:eagles051387@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:eagles051387@gmail.com">eagles051387@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">maybe so but it will give users a heads up hey maybe the doc team should be informed this page doesnt support the release that i am on<br>
<div><div><div><br><br><div>On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Tom Davies <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk">tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;">Hi :)<br>I think we need to be wary of that sort of thing. It can make a page appear outdated even if it's contents are still valid and just means people have to take care to edit every single page even if it's only for that 1 thing. <br>
<br>It has always been my worry that it's the only reason some of our current pages have a bad reputation for being old. The advice might still be solid but the version numbers are so out of date that the page is in danger of getting deleted and the wisdom or cunning lost. Since the move to Unity that has been a lot less of an issue and i am beginning to agree it would be good to just wipe out a large number of pages, or at least stop them from being publicly accessible, but probably just deleting would be best. <br>
<br>Regards from <br>Tom :)
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<font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Jonathan Aquilina <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:eagles051387@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:eagles051387@gmail.com">eagles051387@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Ubuntu Doc <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, 13 September 2013, 19:12<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Suggestion<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Is it possible to put on the page a list of versions that the steps to setup something applies to that way if and when somethign changes then we know that hey these documents need to be updated to include said stuff for this particular
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