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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Phil,<br>
      Creating this tag "Needs Updating" is an excellent idea. I am
      quite sure that it will be used a lot, because I often see wiki
      help pages that are outdated. Let's hope that the tag will urge
      people to effectively update the page.<br>
      Regards,<br>
      Hannie<br>
      <br>
      Op 24-08-13 04:35, Phill Whiteside schreef:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Hannie,
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        <div>I've created the tag & asked on ubuntu-forum.<br>
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          <div>to all others on the wiki team, we did have a discussion
            of a new tab stating 'this page needs updating'. It got
            somewhat mixed views, but over all as it was not a
            classification we had was sort of accepted for where it
            would be needed. I've created the tag [1] for this. I do not
            doubt I've not done it correctly :) </div>
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          <div>Regards,</div>
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        <div>Phill.</div>
        <div>1. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag#Needs_Updating">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag#Needs_Updating</a></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 22 August 2013 13:05, Phill
          Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr">Hi Hannie,
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              <div>I'll add a tag stating it needs a re-work and ask the
                group on ubuntuforum[1] to give it an edit. I don't have
                nVidea cards so I feel it best that the guys from that
                area give it a tidy up. I'll add a subscription to the
                page so that I am alerted as and when they do the work
                so the tag can be removed.
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                <div>Regards,</div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>Phill.</div>
                <div>1. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334"
                    target="_blank">http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334</a></div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On 22 August 2013 07:41,
                    Hannie Dumoleyn <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:lafeber-dumoleyn2@zonnet.nl"
                        target="_blank">lafeber-dumoleyn2@zonnet.nl</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                        <div>Hi Phil,<br>
                          Imho page [2] also needs some rewriting. In
                          Raring there is a tab "Additional drivers" in
                          Software & Updates where you can choose
                          the nvidia driver. If you use the last LTS the
                          page is ok.<br>
                          Hannie <br>
                          <br>
                          Op 21-08-13 19:22, Phill Whiteside schreef:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">It is my proposal that the
                                page in question [1] have a re-direct to
                                this page [2]. That is it's parent page
                                and has the up to date information.
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                                <div>If I do not hear objections, I'll
                                  put the divert on in a couple of days.<br>
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                                  <div>Regards,</div>
                                  <div><br>
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                                  <div>Phill.</div>
                                  <div>1. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia/Nouveau"
                                      target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia/Nouveau</a></div>
                                  <div>2. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia"
                                      target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia</a></div>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On 20 August
                                  2013 12:57, Christopher M. Penalver <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:christopher.m.penalver@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">christopher.m.penalver@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    <br>
                                    A redirect is the more wiser
                                    direction in comparison when
                                    available.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    However, no redirect candidate has
                                    been found.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Given how Nouveau is the default
                                    driver for nvidia graphics cards,<br>
                                    installation instructions for it is
                                    largely unhelpful, and misleading.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Ideally, it would nice if
                                    documentation exists that discussed
                                    this.<br>
                                    However, like with other
                                    undocumented components of Ubuntu,
                                    it's not a<br>
                                    requirement for one to use it
                                    successfully given how like with
                                    many<br>
                                    things in Ubuntu, "It Just works."<br>
                                    <div><br>
                                      Christopher M. Penalver<br>
                                      E-Mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:christopher.m.penalver@gmail.com" target="_blank">christopher.m.penalver@gmail.com</a><br>
                                      <br>
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                                      <div>On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:46
                                        PM, Phill Whiteside <<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com"
                                          target="_blank">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>>

                                        wrote:<br>
                                        > Hi Chris,<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > sorry for the delay in
                                        answering. Is there a wiki page
                                        that is more up to<br>
                                        > date to which I make a
                                        divert for when 'google' etc
                                        point them to that page?<br>
                                        > I see it has the tags for
                                        out of date & deletion, but
                                        I'd much rather have a<br>
                                        > divert put on it to a
                                        current page.<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > Thanks for taking the time
                                        to report it.<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > Regards,<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > Phill.<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > On 14 August 2013 02:56,
                                        Christopher M. Penalver<br>
                                        > <<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:christopher.m.penalver@gmail.com"
                                          target="_blank">christopher.m.penalver@gmail.com</a>>

                                        wrote:<br>
                                        >><br>
                                        >> Dear Ubuntu
                                        Documentation,<br>
                                        >><br>
                                        >> Could you please delete<br>
                                        >> <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia/Nouveau"
                                          target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia/Nouveau</a>
                                        as it<br>
                                        >> only covers releases
                                        that are EoL (Karmic and Lucid),
                                        discusses unsupported<br>
                                        >> maneuvers via stale
                                        PPAs, and just adds another
                                        unhelpful entry when trying<br>
                                        >> to search legitimate
                                        Ubuntu community articles for
                                        nouveau related<br>
                                        >> information.<br>
                                        >><br>
                                        >> Thank you for your time
                                        and consideration in this
                                        matter, and I look<br>
                                        >> forward to your
                                        response.<br>
                                        >><br>
                                        >> Christopher M. Penalver<br>
                                        >> E-Mail: <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:christopher.m.penalver@gmail.com"
                                          target="_blank">christopher.m.penalver@gmail.com</a><br>
                                        >><br>
                                        >> --<br>
                                        >> ubuntu-doc mailing list<br>
                                        >> <a
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