[wiki] PAE page: formatting and flavor-agnosticism

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Yeh, i have had a lot of luck with Kubuntu lately and i love all the glossy
way it looks.

So i think it would be good to have a neutral page and to engage people by
having some images, maybe screen-shots near the top.  Screen-shots would
have to be from specific distros but perhaps they could be done in some
sort of (maybe random) rotation so everyone gets a rough idea even if very
few shots (or in some cases none) are exactly what they see?  I think it's
good to reinforce the fact that there is a lot of diversity and choice in
some way - and to help people realise they can figure it out.


I think the KDE people and Kubuntu have done a huge amount of work to make
it lighter because when i first tried it in 2008 it was only great on top
spec machines.  Now it's about the only one that does work on some of our
older machines!  Lubuntu didn't and Mate was so heavy nothing worked.

Regards from
Tom :)




On 30 March 2015 at 09:58, Cyber Penguin <cyberpenguin1979 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> The wording 'showed no signs of willingness to cooperate and improve the
> page to reach a compromise that satisfied both parties' could probably be
> used for both of us. I'm surprised to see how much effort is put into this.
>
> Anyway, to clarity:
>
> The page has been Lubuntu-focused from its birth two years ago, and with
> this single case as an exception I have only received good response for
> that.
>
> However, I am not particularly in love with Lubuntu and I have no
> intention of marketing only this distro (some others are mentioned in the
> text). It was used as an example because it's light, user friendly and
> reasonably polished / bug free. Other distros could be used in stead, say
> Mate.
>
> I wonder if people realise how weak this hardware is and how few distros
> satisfy the three criteria above.
>
> If the beginner reads a text which is neutral towards the distro he will
> probably default to Ubuntu, waste his time and get a bad first impression.
>
> Whether the information is presented as one page or divided into subpages
> is not the main issue to me. I do however maintain that the text must be a
> practical guide and meet the beginner where he is at present, first of all
> by speaking his language and working in his pace. 'What to do' should be
> presented up front, 'how it worked' comes later. Opening with a theoretical
> walk-through and giving the reader the solution as a treat at the last step
> is not a good way of helping, we have lost him before he gets to push the
> first key on the keyboard.
>
>
> Cheers
> Mörgæs
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella <
> es20490446e at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Pasi Lallinaho:
>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>
>> [image: 🐥] DIVIDE, AND CONQUER
>>
>> I had this discussion myself with other people. In my opinion the more
>> atomized the information is, the easier and most understandable it is.
>>
>> I am completely against writing wikis as they where pages of a book.
>> Because precisely the great power of a wiki is to show exactly as much
>> information as you need, and nothing else.
>>
>> As example, I am rewriting the bug triage manual. And you can see it is
>> now much easier than having a long manual:
>>   - Before: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Triage
>>   - After: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Work-
>> flow/Triage
>>
>>
>> 🔤 FIRST COMES FIRST
>>
>> What happens is some people say that having everything in one page makes
>> it easier to make offline versions of the documentation. But for me it
>> doesn't look a priority over having clarity.
>>
>>
>> [image: 🐢] RUNNING LIKE THE TURTLE, NOT THE HARE
>>
>> Lastly, I think that it is very important to get accustomed to making
>> decisions slowly in consensus.
>>
>> I suspect that many people like doing work in the computer because they
>> can make plenty of decisions themselves, and they haven't to agree with
>> others. But simply a project needs mutual agreement, and you are always
>> welcome to take any decision back.
>>
>> This way decisions can last for a long time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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