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C B conijn.broer at xs4all.nl
Sun Jan 20 14:20:19 UTC 2013


Hiya,

I dunno how powerful the script behind the mailing-list is, but usually
when you reply, the subject line sais "Re:" or an equivalent in one's
set language...

Regarding the email accounts, I cannot access any account (Let's just
get that out-of-the-way) I know how to spoof it, but i agree that this
person probably wouldn't appreciate that...
I have no idea what they want from us. My expirience is that some people
just like trolling...
and yes, I got off-list messages as well. (and one other person I know
of too)

furthermore it seems (judging from the subject line) that there's an
auto-respond option chosen, so that we get those emails no matter
what...

as for the nationality-stuffs:
it is indeed an interesting, but off-topic discussion :P

Greetings,
Cornelis

P.S.
I suspect that this person knows more English than we might suspect from
the messages we get...

On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 14:00 +0000, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)  
> Ok, so hopefully when they reply to this email the instructions might
> get sent directly to them.  Ideally the person might manage to replace
> the subject-line with the word "help" and i'm even going to put it on
> a line of it's own to make it even easier for them to copy.  
> help
> 
> It is very easy to follow the instructions in the link given many
> times already but apparently it's more fun to just write swear words
> even though that actually takes longer and is more effort.  If the
> person is too lazy to even try then they are going to have to just
> find some other way of dealing with this.  Normally when someone puts
> so much effort into avoiding taking the suggested advice and refuses
> to read simple instructions then i just give up trying to help.  They
> will have to find some other way.  
> 
> I don't even know how to hack into someone's email account or how to
> spoof it to send out messages as though they wrote it themselves but i
> have a feeling that even if any of us knew then doing so could well
> create more problems than it's worth.  When people deliberately  avoid
> following simple instructions you have to wonder what their real
> mission is.  If they really wanted to stop messages from the lists
> then they would have already stopped them themselves.  So, the
> question is what are they trying to goad us into?  
> 
> The person has already started emailing me off-list with the same
> message.  It somewhat reminds me off an incident in Brighton years ago
> where a drunken chap was following a girl home at around 2am and
> shouting at her constantly demandign that she go away but using much
> the same language as the chap in this thread.  She was going away but
> he insisted on following her.  She looked pretty upset as she passed
> me and i was able to stop him from passing me and i was able to
> dissuade him from continuing to chase her.  However, this time i feel
> pretty powerless to stop the person being so rude to everyone.  
> 
> I don't understand why people assume that an English speaker is
> american but that is a side issue
> Regards from
> Tom :)  
> 
>         
>         ______________________________________________________________
>         From: C B <>
>         To: Elliot Still <> 
>         Cc: "ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com"
>         <ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com>; amberstone <amberstone at hot.pl> 
>         Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2013, 13:20
>         Subject: Re: Clowns -.-'
>         
>         
>         I wholeheartedly agree...
>         I'm awaiting some important emails, but this is kind-of
>         filling up my
>         mailbox...
>         
>         but a question rises here too, 
>         how can someone not know english, except for cusswords?
>         the polish people I met here (in the netherlands) all speak
>         enough
>         english to at least talk about the breakfast they had...
>         
>         anyways,
>         
>         in the worst case, could we do an impersonation?
>         make an e-mail with the subject "help" and then change the
>         sender to the
>         email-adress of our loyal friend...?
>         
>         // end of the small talk
>         
>         I am currently not able to access the internet, so I can't
>         start a
>         conversation in polish with help of google translate.
>         but if it's all the same to you guys, I could give my German a
>         try, or
>         maybe even Dutch...
>         
>         What you say?
>         or has someone tried already?
>         
>         Greetings,
>         Cornelis
>         
>         On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 12:11 +0000, Elliot Still wrote:
>         > Guys, I am personally sick of this. What is going on?
>         > 
>         > 
>         > Elliot Still
>         > 
>         > On 20 Jan 2013, at 12:09, amberstone <amberstone at hot.pl>
>         wrote:
>         > 
>         > 
>         > 
>         > > FUCK OF AMERICAN CLOWN! !!!!!!! with your spam
>         > > 
>         > > 
>         > > 
>         > > 
>         > > Sent from Sony-Ericson 
>         > > ubuntu-doc-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
>         > > Send ubuntu-doc mailing list submissions to
>         > > ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com
>         > > 
>         > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>         > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc
>         > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help'
>         to
>         > > ubuntu-doc-request at lists.ubuntu.com
>         > > 
>         > > You can reach the person managing the list at
>         > > ubuntu-doc-owner at lists.ubuntu.com
>         > > 
>         > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more
>         specific
>         > > than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-doc digest..."
>         > > 
>         > > 
>         > > Today's Topics:
>         > > 
>         > >    1. Re: HowTo unsubscribe but in Polish? (Wesley
>         Schwengle)
>         > > 
>         > > 
>         > >
>         ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>         > > 
>         > > Message: 1
>         > > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 08:34:23 +0100
>         > > From: Wesley Schwengle <wesley at schwengle.net>
>         > > To: Alex Wauck <alex.wauck at gmail.com>, Ubuntu
>         Documentation Project
>         > > <ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com>
>         > > Subject: Re: HowTo unsubscribe but in Polish?
>         > > Message-ID:
>         <0ac01522-a645-4600-9c58-106d12ab0773 at email.android.com>
>         > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>         > > 
>         > > Alex Wauck <alex.wauck at gmail.com> wrote:
>         > > 
>         > > >I would say that there's no excuse for this in the age of
>         Google
>         > > >Translate,
>         > > >but from what I've heard, machine translation has extra
>         trouble
>         > > with
>         > > >Polish, producing the most some of the most
>         mind-bendingly
>         > > >incomprehensible
>         > > >gibberish known to man.  Maybe unsubscribe information is
>         something
>         > > the
>         > > >translators should really focus on?  It's not a whole lot
>         of text,
>         > > but
>         > > >getting it right could make a huge difference.
>         > > >
>         > > >Alex
>         > > >On Jan 19, 2013 6:06 PM, "Tom Davies"
>         <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk>
>         > > wrote:
>         > > >
>         > > >> Hi :)
>         > > >> I'm not sure if this helps
>         > > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-pl
>         > > >>
>         > > >> The problem is how someone that can't speak English
>         managed to
>         > > >> accidentally subscribe themselves and more importantly
>         how to
>         > > >unsubscribe
>         > > >> them.
>         > > >> Regards from
>         > > >> Tom :)
>         > > >>
>         > > >>  ------------------------------
>         > > >> *From:* Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk>
>         > > >> *To:* amberstone <amberstone at hot.pl>;
>         > > "ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com" <
>         > > >> ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com>
>         > > >> *Sent:* Saturday, 19 January 2013, 23:59
>         > > >> *Subject:* Re: ubuntu-doc Digest, Vol 100, Issue 8
>         > > >>
>         > > >> Hi :)
>         > > >> Does anyone know the Polish language version of the
>         unsubscribe
>         > > page?
>         > > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc
>         > > >> Regards from
>         > > >> Tom :)
>         > > >>
>         > > >>
>         > > >>  ------------------------------
>         > > >> *From:* Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk>
>         > > >> *To:* amberstone <amberstone at hot.pl>;
>         > > "ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com" <
>         > > >> ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com>
>         > > >> *Sent:* Saturday, 19 January 2013, 23:41
>         > > >> *Subject:* Re: ubuntu-doc Digest, Vol 100, Issue 8
>         > > >>
>         > > >> Hi :)
>         > > >> If you wish to stop the messages please visit this
>         website and
>         > > >unsubscribe
>         > > >> yourself
>         > > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc
>         > > >>
>         > > >> Lists try to remain "family friendly" and although many
>         kids know
>         > > >more
>         > > >> swear words than their elders it often worries their
>         parents if
>         > > they
>         > > >see
>         > > >> such things.  So, please tone down the language.
>         > > >> Regards from
>         > > >> Tom :)
>         > > >>
>         > > >>
>         > > >>
>         > > >>
>         > > >>
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>         > > 
>         > > There is something available, however, ubuntu-docs is only
>         available
>         > > in English and French... Perhaps more languages should be
>         enabled.
>         > > 
>         > >
>         https://translations.launchpad.net/mailman/3.0/+pots/mailman/pl/+translate
>         > > -- 
>         > > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my
>         brevity.
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