Mailing list administration

Thu Aug 22 10:42:56 UTC 2013

Hi :)
In LibreOffice we use mlmmj but i have a feeling they have weird settings.  

They way it is set-up there is that no-one knows if anyone else has done a thing so a lot of things get done 2 or 3 times by different people.  For example, if a mail has been blocked and really is spam then 2 or 3 moderators might take the action to make sure that no-one else accidentally lets it get through to the lists.  If it wasn't spam then 2 or 3 people might accept it to let it through.  It's not that duplicates then appear on the mailing list just that 1 or 2 of those people could have been doing something else.  Also there doesn't seem to be an easy way for the moderators to communicate with each other.  If a non-english message gets to the list then i don't even know if it's possible to re-route it to the right list so i just let it through and then try to deal with it after it has reached the wrong list.  If it's non-English it's difficult for some people to tell if it's spam or not.  I tend to have "Quick Translate" so it's just a
 couple of clicks for me.  

So i am not sure if mlmmj is better than a web-based interface or not as i have used used the web-based ones.  Hopefully the web-based one makes it easier to collaborate with other moderators?  Hopefully if moderating more than 1 list then it gets easier?  

Like i said it might well be that LibreOffice just has weird settings or that it's suffering from user-error from my end.  Perhaps it's that "the grass is always greener on the other side" (ie my neighbours lawn always looks better than my own)


In some ways it might be better to change the system before anyone new gets into bad habits but in other ways it might be better to have a few people learn the current system before thinking about changing it?  I never know which way around is better for a given scenario.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  


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> From: Jonathan Aquilina <eagles051387 at gmail.com>
>To: David Manuel Pires <slickymaster at gmail.com> 
>Cc: Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk>; Matthew East <matt at mdke.org>; Ubuntu Doc <ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2013, 10:33
>Subject: Re: Mailing list administration
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>I am willing to help but why have admins use a web interface when it can be easily administered via an email. someone should really check out mlmmj it makes administering the lists a hell of a lot easier and all done by email.
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>On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:30 AM, David Manuel Pires <slickymaster at gmail.com> wrote:
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>Hi, team.
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>>On 20 August 2013 18:26, Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>>Hi :)
>>>If it's possible to take it on and train up some 'new' people to take on more than one list each so that you can have holidays and breaks and yet know the work is still covered then i think that would be fantastic!   Errr, i'm not volunteering to be one of the 'new' people, sorry ;)
>>>Regards from 
>>>Tom :)  
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>>I don't know if I can, or not, apply as one of the 'new' people Tom's mentioning, but you can consider me as volunteer for the job.
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>>I'm going on vacation tomorrow, for a two weeks period, but when I return and if you guys think I can help, I'm more the willing to do it.
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>>Cheers,
>>David Pires
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>>>> From: Jared Norris <jrnorris at gmail.com>
>>>>To: Matthew East <matt at mdke.org> 
>>>>Cc: Ubuntu Doc <ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com> 
>>>>Sent: Monday, 19 August 2013, 8:39
>>>>Subject: Re: Mailing list administration
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>>>>On 19 August 2013 17:01, Matthew East <matt at mdke.org> wrote:
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>>>>Dear all,
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>>>>>We have four administrators of the mailing list, but none of them are
>>>>>active contributors to the team or the mailing list, so it would be
>>>>>good to get some new administrators.
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>>>>>Mailing list administration is pretty easy, the web interface is
>>>>>pretty self-explanatory. The main job is really just to process
>>>>>pending requests from people posting to the list who are not
>>>>>subscribed - those emails get held in a queue. 95% of them are spam,
>>>>>but occasionally there are emails which need to be approved.
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>>>>>Is anyone willing to take this on?
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>>>>>Matt
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>>>>I'm not as strong a documentation contributor as I have been in the past but I also moderate multiple other ubuntu-* mailing lists so have the required skills. If you're short let me know and I can add it to my list of other ones to check but also happy for new blood to have a chance if there is enough interest.
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