Fwd: updating wiki

Tom Davies tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk
Sun Nov 21 11:59:14 UTC 2010 

Hi, 

Ok, the amended page is 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot
and the newly created one is
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot/6.06

Subscript appeared to have been used for emphasis so i switched those to bold, 
and tidied spacing, made inline coding brackets into proper ones, cut the 
confusing paragraphs about 6.06 (and pasted them into the new page) and moved 
Johnathon Aquilina's paragraph into the introduction but otherwise left it 
unchanged.
Regards from
Tom :)




________________________________
From: Jonathan Aquilina <eagles051387 at gmail.com>
To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Sun, 21 November, 2010 10:34:28
Subject: Re: Fwd: updating wiki

i honestly think that the older release should have pages for their own release. 
so as to avoid confusion imho.


On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Hi :)
>
>They are not mistakes, just differences of opinion = so feel free to change 
>things back if you prefer it your first way.  
>
>
>I have a little more confidence because i have done a few pages now but that 
>doesn't make me an expert.  If anything, you are the expert on this page because 
>you have done the task and i haven't = so your opinions are more important than 
>mine.
>
>At the bottom fo the page it mentions which releases the guide has been tested 
>on so you could add whichever release you are using.  Most guides don't have a 
>note like that.
>
>The 6.06 release is still supported for 1 more year on servers but it creates 
>confusion in the page so i was thinking about moving the 6.06 stuff off to a 
>sub-page?  I might try it and see what you think?
>
>
>Good luck  and regards from
>Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________
From: Jonathan Aquilina <eagles051387 at gmail.com>
>To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk>
>Sent: Sun, 21 November, 2010 10:12:46
>
>Subject: Re: Fwd: updating wiki
>
>
>thanks tom im new to working with wikis so forgive me for formatting mistakes.
>
>
>On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Hi
>>
>>For some quirky reason every email you send is sent twice.  I vaguely remember 
>>something about that being a settings/config problem but i cannot remember how 
>>to solve it.
>>
>>Usually when people ask for a page to be checked they include the url for it so 
>>people can just click on the link, such as
>>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dovecot?action=diff&rev2=43&rev1=38
>>
>>It seemed worth moving the warning to the intro to make it more prominent.  I 
>>also moved it out of coding brackets because a lot of people automatically 
>>ignore the contents of coding brackets unless they want to copy&paste it into 
>>the command-line.
>>
>>
>>Good luck and regards from
>>Tom :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________
 From: Jonathan Aquilina <eagles051387 at gmail.com>
>>To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk>
>>Cc: ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com
>>Sent: Sun, 21 November, 2010 9:36:04
>>Subject: Re: Fwd: updating wiki
>>
>>
>>hey guys the wiki is updated for dovecot. feel free to take a look and improve 
>>what i said.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Aquilina <eagles051387 at gmail.com> 
>>wrote:
>>
>>thanks tome will update you guys once the update is complete.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>Good, good.
>>>>
>>>>It is sometimes ok to break out of a mailing list for a few mails and then give 
>>>>the list an update later = so that was all fine, don't worry.
>>>>
>>>>Check typos and spellings in Documentation you edit.  Saying "ahve" in a mail is 
>>>>ok, most people convert that to "have" without even noticing but in 
>>>>documentation it is more important to try to get sepllings right (or american)
>>>>
>>>>I think the main thing is congrats on getting the mail-server working despite 
>>>>documentation leading you astray ;)
>>>>Congrats and regards from
>>>>Tom :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
________________________________
From: Jonathan Aquilina <eagles051387 at gmail.com>
>>>>To: Ubuntu Doc <ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>>Sent: Sun, 21 November, 2010 8:54:24
>>>>Subject: Fwd: updating wiki
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>forgot to include the doc list here
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>From: Jonathan Aquilina <eagles051387 at gmail.com>
>>>>Date: Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:53 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: updating wiki
>>>>To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>i can do it just ahve to add a gigantic warning to not put the Maildir in an 
>>>>encrypted home directory. other then that the wiki is fine considering i have 
>>>>never setup an email server before its been quite a learning experience. but ill 
>>>>try and update the wiki today :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Tom Davies <tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi :)
>>>>>
>>>>>I think it is wise for pages to state which release they are written for, 
>>>>>especially if there is 'some' coding on the page.  However i usually find that 
>>>>>only sundry petty changes need to be made, for example a coding line that 
>>>>>includes the word "dapper" might need to be edited to read "lucid" because Lucid 
>>>>>Lynx, the 10.04, is the latest LTS release.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes it would be 'nice' if someone with recent experience using those pages were 
>>>>>able to go through and make the tiny changes and then check that the advice 
>>>>>still works.
>>>>>
>>>>>Obviously the dovecot wiki 'urgently' needs that  update because more people 
>>>>>appear to be using encrypted partitions now = or is it still only recent Windows 
>>>>>converts that bother?  Is there any chance of you doing the edit there Jonathon, 
>>>>>since you know  the change that is needed but other people might not be so 
>>>>>familiar with that page?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Good luck and regards from
>>>>>Tom :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
________________________________
From: Jonathan Aquilina <eagles051387 at gmail.com>
>>>>>To: Zach Kriesse <zach.kleinhenz at gmail.com>
>>>>>Cc: Ubuntu Doc <ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>>>Sent: Sun, 21 November, 2010 8:34:21
>>>>>Subject: Re: updating wiki
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Zach thign is the wiki's need an overhaul in general imho as they have how to's 
>>>>>for release which have been EOL'ed ages ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>also  for instance there is no mention on the dovecot wiki that encrypted home 
>>>>>directories shouldnt be used. i have spent the last month trying to figure out 
>>>>>why im having email issues :(.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Would it be possible to develop some sort of game plan to update all wiki's and 
>>>>>how to's so they are up to date with more recent supported releases?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Zach Kriesse <zach.kleinhenz at gmail.com> 
>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Depends upon the importance of the page and who edited it  but sometimes pages 
>>>>>can be lost. I myself along with Phillw are part of the Ubuntu Doc team and 
>>>>>Ubuntu Doc/Wiki Admins team so we have a bit more of a responsibility look over 
>>>>>pages...if you're ever in doubt send an email to the list, join #ubuntu-doc on 
>>>>>irc.freenode.net, or send me or phillw an email...glad to see your interest in 
>>>>>contributing...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers!
>>>>>>Zach K
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Nov 20, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Jonathan Aquilina <eagles051387 at gmail.com> 
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks for the information. are the wiki pages check by people who know how 
>>>>>>things are setup etc to verify some sort of validity and correctness in the 
>>>>>>steps in the tutorial?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Connor Imes <rocket2dmn at ubuntu.com> 
>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.  You don't need to follow
>>>>>>>>any particular process to go about editing the wiki other than using
>>>>>>>>some best practice.  See the WikiGuide [1] for help with using the wiki
>>>>>>>>correctly.  You will need a Launchpad account in order to edit pages.
>>>>>>>>You are free to edit pages yourself, and you can also Tag [2] pages that
>>>>>>>>need work to alert others that the page in question is not fully up to 
>>>date.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>[1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide
>>>>>>>>[2] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>-Connor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 11/10/2010 02:48 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I use alot the wiki for various thing i have never setup before. I
>>>>>>>>> have noticed that alot of them are for really old releases which have
>>>>>>>>> reached their EOL. what needs to get done to start updating them, and
>>>>>>>>> getting them upto date with the latest supported releases.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Aquilina
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-- 
>>>>>>>Jonathan Aquilina
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-- 
>>>>>Jonathan Aquilina
>>>>>
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