Categories and SubPages as it pertains to the Wiki Playbook

[Marc Kaplan]

Is there a good time sometime on Saturday to meet on IRC.  I would
like to discuss this prior to the docs team meeting on Sunday.  I'm
shooting for sometime between 1 and 3 EST...

Marc Kaplan

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Andrew
Sayers<andrew-bugs.launchpad.net at pileofstuff.org> wrote:
> Hi Matthew,
>
> Sorry for the delayed reply - I wanted to read up on templates etc.
> before responding, as your post gave me some good ideas.
>
> First, I'm ashamed to admit that I've been mentally tuning out the
> "choose a page template" options in the "create a new page" page,
> thinking they were just more similar page names.  I would be more likely
> to see them if they were of the form "Template:Foo".  That's another
> issue for another day though.
>
> My interest in this discussion is more about the "how" than the "what",
> so my answers about content will be a bit half-hearted I'm afraid.
>
> Your analysis is almost right, except that I propose to include the
> category page itself in all pages in the category, and to use sub-pages
> as landing pages.  I've now updated the category concept so that
> category pages redirect to the relevant landing page, which I hope is an
> acceptable compromise.
>
> To unpack the problem a bit, a perfect version of my proposal would
> satisfy all of the following conditions:
>
>  1. Category names in [[FindPage]] make sense
>  2. Page authors only have to add one simple thing to their page
>  3. [[CategoryFoo]] is a landing page for everything in category foo
>
> I can satisfy conditions [1] and [2] by asking page authors to include this:
>
>        ----
>        <<Include(Category/Foo/Bar)>>
>
> Or I can satisfy [2] and [3] by asking page authors to include this:
>
>        ----
>        <<Include(Category/Foo/Bar:Footer)>>
>
> Or I can satisfy [1] and [3] like this:
>
>        <<Include(Category/Foo/Bar)>>
>        ----
>        Category/Foo/Bar
>
> But I can't think of a way to satisfy all three conditions at once.
> Given that category creators are likely to more skilled than readers or
> page authors, and categories will be created less often, I chose [1] and
> [2].  As I said above, I hope that using a #redirect to send users who
> visit [[Category/Foo/Bar]] to [[Category/Foo/Bar/CategoryInfo:About]]
> will be a good enough compromise.
>
> Based on your suggestion, I've now created a page that would become
> [[CategoryTemplate]].  As to manpower and complexity, I defer to Marc
> (and everyone else) - I'm too close to the issue to judge difficulty per
> page, and too far from the content to judge the number of pages.
>
>        - Andrew
>
> [1]https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiSandBox/CategoryConcept/TemplateCategory?action=show
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