Bug #290467, wether to add doumentation for automatic login.

[Dougie Richardson]

There is no animosity, there never has been with anyone in the time I've contibuted, that was how it came across to me.

I may well Have been wrong and if so I apologise. 

So you were responsible for Bowman? I dare say we Have worked with some of same people and agencies. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Watson <me at jonwatson.ca>
Sent: 31 October 2008 04:30
Cc: ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: Bug #290467, wether to add doumentation for automatic login.

Hi,

Dougie Richardson wrote:
> I don't intend to discuss this any further, as you are intent on being 
> insulting.

I don't really understand your objection at this point.

While I don't see it this way, I can see how Little Girl's original 
response could be taken as having a "tone" because of the word freedom. 
I can't however, see how her response below could be taken as "intent on 
being insulting". She makes a valid point which I agree with: if it's a 
feature, document it. If it's not, don't document it. If it a feature in 
contention, then take it up the chain and sort out if it should be 
included and take action appropriately.

<rant>

I am Canadian and in another life I used to work for a large defence 
contractor. For several years I worked on a project to develop a new 
communications system for the British army (which is now called BOWMAN). 
I had numerous contacts with UK soldiers and UK government personnel 
during this time. In the beginning of my involvement with this project I 
had not been to the UK but many staff members of the UK firm we were 
working with and soldiers of the British military were in constant 
attendance at the Canadian establishment where I worked. There was a 
running joke that the UK and Canada were "separated by a common 
language". I laughed along with everyone else when someone said this, 
but didn't really come to appreciate it until I started travelling to 
the UK later on in the project.

On my first trip to the UK I was outfitted with a pre-paid cellular 
phone that would function within the UK system. My first task upon 
reaching the UK was to buy some airtime for this phone. I had no idea 
where to go to buy such a thing but luckily one of the UK citizens that 
we were working with took me to a store to purchase some airtime. He 
told the store clerk that I was looking for some airtime for my phone 
and then inquired about a "coupon scheme" that would get me a percentage 
more airtime than I paid for. It was at that point that I started to 
understand the "separated by a common language" thing. In good old North 
America we would have called that a coupon, but in the UK they call it a 
"scheme". As any North American reading this will know, the word 
"scheme" has negative connotations. The word "scheme" is akin to "scam" 
or "fraud", but in the UK it just means "program" or "system".

Long winded, I know, but I think it's relevant. I doubt that either 
Little Girl or Dougie want to be where they are right now in this 
conversation, and I am chalking it up to a simple misunderstanding 
rather than any animosity on either's part.

</rant>

Jon

>
> Dougie Richardson (dougie at lynxworks.eu), sent from my Aspire One - 
> excuse the msipellings.
>
>
> ----- Original message -----
> Sent: 2008/10/30 21:05:44
> Subject: Re:Re: Bug #290467, wether to add doumentation for automatic 
> login.
>
> Hey there,
>
> Dougie Richardson wrote:
>
> > I think a lecture in that tone is unnecessary, the freedom argument
> > is just as true for my opinion as it is for yours.
>
> This isn't about tone or opinion - it's about logic.
>
> Automatic login is a feature the developers included in the operating 
> system.
>
> Since it's a feature, it should be documented.
>
> The Documentation Team's job is to document the software, right?
>
> If the Documentation Team questions the value of a feature, what is
> the procedure that should be followed?
>
> Wouldn't the sensible next step be for the Documentation Team to take
> the issue up with the developers in an effort to have the feature
> removed?
>
> If the developers agree to remove the feature in future releases, is
> the Documentation Team obligated to document the feature for the
> releases it's available in?
>
> If the developers insist that the feature will not be removed
> because it's valid/necessary/important, is the Documentation Team
> then obligated to document it?
>
> -- 
> Little Girl
>
> There is no spoon. 


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