New Wiki page

[Scott Kitterman]

I've got plenty to do being a core-dev already.   I don't have time to 
volunteer in yet another team.  

Ubuntu brown in the Kubuntu theme is completely unacceptable. The old theme 
didn't have it.  I think your attitude is dismissive and disrespectful of 
the Kubuntu community.

Please do not destroy our look and feel.  I have refrained from just 
reverting the change because that isn't how things are supposed to work in 
Ubuntu.  Please, instead of continued self-justification that you used the 
right process, accept that your change, no matter how well intended, is 
problematic for Kubuntu and let's start to figure out how to fix it.

Scott K
...... Original Message .......
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:21:02 -0700 (PDT) "Marc K." <mk at technomensch.net> 
wrote:
>Scott,
>
>Please keep in mind that when I made the changes, I kept the same color 
>scheme and appearance as was used prior to my revisions:
>
>https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Home?action=recall&rev=186
>
>This was a decision made by the community-at-large prior to my work. 
>Please know that your input is important.  If you are concerned with the 
>current appearance, you are welcome to join the documentation team to 
>assist us:
>
>http://wiki.kubuntu.org/DocumentationTeam
>
>Marc K.
>
>On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>
>> I have no idea about such things.   It looks essentially the same to me 
with
>> Firefox and Konqueror (the default web browser in Kubuntu) on both 
Dapper and
>> Intrepid.  Fundamentally the new scheme is very Ubuntu centric in it's 
color
>> choices and looks awful in the Kubuntu scheme.  AFAIK I am using the 
normal
>> Kubuntu scheme, whatever that is in wiki terms.
>>
>> "I sent out mail" does not relieve you of understanding the impacts of 
your
>> changes.
>>
>> Having Ubuntu brown all over wiki.kubuntu.org is not terribly thoughtful.
>>
>> Scott K
>>
>> On Saturday 25 October 2008 13:56, you wrote:
>>> I have looked at your screen capture, but I'm unable to duplicate what you
>>> are seeing:
>>>
>>> Using 800x600
>>> http://technomensch.net/images/ubuntuwiki/kubuntu2.jpg
>>>
>>> Using 1024x768
>>> http://technomensch.net/images/ubuntuwiki/kubuntu1.jpg
>>>
>>> Are you using Kubuntu or Kubuntu2?  It looks the same either way when I go
>>> there.  I am CC'ing the mailing list to see if anyone else is able to
>>> duplicate what you see.  For those wondering, I have uploaded his file 
to:
>>>
>>> http://technomensch.net/images/ubuntuwiki/kubuntuwiki.png
>>>
>>> Perhaps one of the other members might be able to see something I don't.
>>>
>>> Please be sure to CC the Mailing List on future responses.
>>>
>>> Marc Kaplan
>>>
>>> On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>>>> Did you look at the attached screenshot?
>>>>
>>>> Scott K
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday 25 October 2008 13:26, you wrote:
>>>>> Please know that if you are referring to the Community Team Home 
Page, a
>>>>> comment was added to the page almost 2 weeks ago, which was sent to
>>>>> anyone who subscribed to the page.  I asked for comments or 
suggestions
>>>>> prior to making the switch over.  In addition, the comment was 
available
>>>>> within the code for anyone modifying the site to see.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also used the listing of Team Leaders on the /Teams page to contact
>>>>> the various mailing lists to notify them of them changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I made all possible attempts to notify appropriate individuals while 
the
>>>>> page was under development.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would have been appreciated if this comment was made when the 
comment
>>>>> and request for input was added to the home page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please know what we have active memebers on the documentation team 
that
>>>>> use Kubuntu and are very persistant in insuring that our documents are
>>>>> compatible with Kubuntu.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be happy to add any additional modifications to the formatting 
if
>>>>> it is not appearing correctly.  However, I would need to see what you
>>>>> are seeing in order to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please provide the information requested, and resubmit your request to
>>>>> the Documentation Team Mailing List so that we have it on record.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Contact
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your valuable input.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Marc Kaplan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>>>>>> The new wiki page does not work at all in the Kubuntu style.  Please
>>>>>> revert your change until it actually works for the community as a
>>>>>> whole. Screenshot attached.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott K
>>
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