kde helpcenter integration into gnome

[john levin]

Rich Johnson wrote:
> On Saturday 17 February 2007, Matthew East wrote:
> | On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 11:14 -0600, Rich Johnson wrote:
> | > On Saturday 17 February 2007, John Levin wrote:
> | > | Hi all,
> | > |
> | > | I regularly use a handful of KDE apps on Gnome, Scribus and Basket
> | > | being the most important.
> | > |
> | > | I've filed a bug about Basket complaining of khelpcenter not being
> | > | installed when calling up the handbook from the helpmenu (bug no.
> | > | 85781), but am wondering whether there is a deeper problem abut
> | > | integration between KDE and Gnome help, and whether there is any
> | > | attempt underway to rectify this. Should I file a more general bug? (in
> | > | which case I'd like some pointers as to package, etc)
> | >
> | > One thing I noticed is that GNOME and KDE stores their help files in
> | > different locations. Yelp shouldn't have a problem opening up KDE
> | > documentation as it is a .docbook extension. This has been a goal of the
> | > Freedesktop campaign for "YEARS" and neither side has done much to meet
> | > it, or make it work.
> |
> | I don't think the help being stored in different places causes the
> | problem that John is describing. Having said that, I don't know anything
> | about how help buttons work so I don't know why Scribus would be able to
> | access both help applications, and other applications not.
> |
> | Matt
> | --
> | http://www.mdke.org
> | gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF
> 
> Ahh, ya with Scribus I don't know it should work no matter which system it is 
> installed on, even Mac OS and Windows. As for Basket, it should be set to 
> using the typical help:/document and if I am not mistaken, Yelp recognizes 
> the help:/ URI as well.
> 
> 

I asked about this on the kubuntu-dev list, and Jonathan Riddell said:

"Scribus isn't a KDE app and has its own help centre built in.  Any KDE
app will need khelpcentre installed before you can view the help.
There is a proposed spec to share help file format between KDE and
Gnome but the Gnome help dude hasn't been able to implement it."

The bug for basket calling helpcentre was rejected:
"We don't set KDE apps to depend on khelpcentre because people may not
want to install khelpcentre (Gnome users complain enough about the
number of dependencies when they install KDE apps.)"

So this is a big upstream bug, for Gnome and KDE to sort out betwen 
themselves.
(Sudden thought: what does Xubuntu use for it's help system?)

John Levin