Question on the Kubuntu Userguide

[Sean Wheller]

On Wednesday 06 July 2005 15:33, Jonathan Jesse wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 July 2005 08:41 am, Sean Wheller wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 July 2005 04:45, Jonathan Jesse wrote:
> > > In the section on Addding Software Repositories we focus on editing the
> > > reposotires in /etc/atp/sources.list and then it seems we focus on
> > > installing software via Apt instead of kynaptic and yet we have a whole
> > > section on Kynaptic.
> > >
> > > Should we be focusing on Kynaptic?  Or am I reading things wrong?
> >
> > No you are not wrong :-) you are spot on
> >
> > There is an issue for kubuntu-devels to resolve with regard to which
> > package management tool to use. In hoary Kynaptic was shipped. Now there
> > is talk of Kapture. So realisticaly it does not make much sense for us to
> > write Kynaptic or Kapture into the Kubuntu User Guide until such time as
> > the developers resolve what they will be doing. There are a number of
> > issues in a state of flux at present I tried to summarize a conversation
> > I had with Riddell on these subject, see http://lnix/~froud
> >
> > In the section "Adding Software
> > Repositories" [ /book[1]/part[8]/chapter[1]/sect1[2] ] I started
> > explaining APT since people need to understand that they need to change
> > the APT sources.list file in order to ad repositories. They should also
> > understand that GUI apps such as Kynaptic or Kapture are just front-end
> > tools to APT.
> >
> > I stopped writing the section when it came to the sect "Updating Software
> > Lists" [ /book[1]/part[8]/chapter[1]/sect1[3] ] since I was, at first
> > going explain how to use do apt-get update and the same using aptitude
> > (maybe). This would lead into doing the same from a GUI tool. Which one?
> >
> > So the chapter "Software Management" [ /book[1]/part[8]/chapter[2] ] can
> > only really start seriously once we know which GUI front-end to APT will
> > be used. Having said that, some general information about package
> > management practice that will not change between tools would not go
> > amiss.
> >
> > In general, I envision that the book will use KDE GUI as much possible
> > and only resort to the Konsole and tools like vim or vi when there is no
> > choice. As you can see by the section "Adding Software Repositories" I
> > have used the "Run command" and then "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
> > to start kate as su. I could have done a start Konsole and do "sudo
> > kate /etc/apt/sources.list" but as I envisioned using KDE tools as much
> > possible.
> >
> > Hope this help. BTW. The outline is free to changes and no doubt will
> > before the end.
>
> How soon will we know when the whole Kapture vs. Kynaptic vs apt-get will
> be resolved?  I noticed a lot of <writing> tags and figured Sean was
> waiting to resolve some issues :)

The apt stuff will stay, as that is foundation information and the basis for 
APT that will not be changing in breezy anytime soon. 

As for the GUI apps, if I read the Kubuntu Roadmap correctly, if work on 
Kapture does not go ahead, then the job for devels will be to make Kynaptic 
the wiz-bang app it should be. Personally, I think it is better to focus on 
Kynaptic and make it great, but then I am not a devel. Perhaps one of the 
developers on the kubuntu-devel list can shed some light on what they will be 
doing and when.

Somebody needs to quickly make some final decisions. I think it should be 
sooner rather than later, otherwise volunteering documenters will be hard 
pressed to do anything of quality for breezy.

The problem at present is that, although Kubuntu developers have included 
documentation in their roadmap, I don't think anyone really considered what 
that means. It would be nice to see suggestions from developers on this 
subject so that we can find a way to proceed.

-- 
Sean Wheller
Technical Author
sean at inwords.co.za
084-854-9408
http://www.inwords.co.za
Registered Linux User #375355
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