actually, the kubuntu/quickguide is very much an active document - it was the sanest document available for kubuntu 5.10 Feel free to remove Edubuntu - its currently being done in bzr, hence making the existing in svn obsolete. Jerome Jerome Gotangco jgotangco at ubuntu.com | jgotangco at gmail.com Mobile: +639196555242 GPG: 0xA97B69A0