CC meeting preliminary notes

[Ben Edwards]

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:19:25 +0300, Alexander Poslavsky
<alexander.poslavsky at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi DocTeam!
> 
> tonight will be the CC-meeting and it would be nice if we can get some
> decisions on the DocTeam as well. I will not be able to make it
> probably, if it starts earlier i'll be at the beginning if not i might
> be at the end... anyway some thoughts i think that need to be covered:
> 
> It would be good if we have a team-leader, it might bring more
> structure to our team and make us more productive and effective.

I prefer the tem facilitator;).  Do the other groups have a leader? 
How about those who have the time take turns to fill this roll - like
a rolling chair.  Basically what we are talking about is a
representative rather than decision maker.  What we could do is when
we need someone to represent us in a meeting we could find someone
from the team who is available at that time and prepared to do it.

> What do people think of the wiki so far? I find it hard to find the
> important stuf (=Howto pages etc). How to make the wiki more
> accessible.

is http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/NewFrontPage any better - Howto is not
in Getting Started.

> Other languages. Are the toplinks ok (look at NefFrontPage) for an
> example? Naming for other languages, i like ComoSomething for spanish
> Howto's better then SpanishWikiPage. 

What is Como?

> It will be easier to find stuff
> if pages are name logically/consistantly.

Here Here

> What to do with the new wiki, does it work, when will we start to use
> it? What will be the preferred markup-language? Kupu is easiest but
> then all pages will look differently, moin is easiest, then we still
> have structured and restructured text. The last two are powerfull but
> need better, easier documentation.

Could someone who has experience with the new wiki do a quick
comparison/review.  I am really hoping the content is moved over
automatically - is this the case?

> If we are supposed to start using the new wiki then we need help and
> documentation. I have been making pages but it is difficult to make
> normal pages, links to other pages. I do not understand why some pages
> are Singletons and some are not, why do some pages pop up in the
> side-bar and how do i remove them from there? And how do i put a page
> i made in the side-bar? Can we ask wiki-questions on the
> ubuntu-doc-mailinglist, on irc?

This is very interesting.  I find even with simple wiki of the type we
are currently using people find it difficult to get motivated to start
using it.  They may be simple but it took me ages to start using them.
 My worry is if the new wiki is more complex to do simple things it
will scare a lot of people off, and these people are exactly the
people we need involved - the more non techies involved the more
successfully we are at getting out of the techie getto.

> The ubuntu-doc list seems a really good idea. We should thank whoever
> thought that up. Off course it would be nice if in the future at least
> the documentation-leader would be in the loop of changes that have
> influence on the docteam.

In an accountable and transparent way I hope ;)

Ben

> He could the keep the rest of the team
> up-to-date.
> thanks for your time and comments,
> 
> greets, AP
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