Nutshells, books and FAQs

[John Hornbeck]

On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 17:19 +0100, Christoph Haas wrote:
> John (et al),
> 
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 09:33:31AM -0600, John Hornbeck wrote:
> > I was actually told that the book I was working on, would not work as
> > the nutshell book. But that what myself and RobertJ are working on is
> > needed.
> 
> Could you shed some light on what the differences are between the
> "nutshell book" and what you have been doing lately? I still don't get
> the picture.

I was told by Jdub that the outline we had was not "Nutshell" material.
He was supposed to email me two nights ago with the "Nutshell" proposal
but it never came.

> 
> > I have honestly thought of porting the entire Progeny Guide over to
> > Ubuntu.  It is a very good manual.
> 
> Have you checked how much would need to be changed? I like that guide,
> too, but it would probably be a lot of work porting it and watching the
> changes. Are there so many differences between Ubuntu and Progeny that
> it would justify the huge amount of work?
> 
I have not started porting because it would be a ton of work, and I
don't know if there is justice in doing so.  I have left it alone for
now.

> I could also imagine we leave the Progeny manual where it is even it's
> not 100% Ubuntu compliant because we probably can't handle that until
> Hoary. Starting an FAQ->Book transition would make enough sense IMHO.
> And it's not much work really. Just that I hope we know who can work
> where.
> 
> > I get more and more confused everyday. I think that I should be working
> > on the book, but also trying to help maintain the faq, gnome-guide,
> > wiki, and in the end I don't get much done because I am stretching
> > myself to thin.
> 
> That's exactly my feeling currently, too. I just don't know where to do
> what. And setting up the Wiki pages hasn't really improved the "what
> goes where" problem.
> 
I agree

> > I think we can combine it all without any problem.  It would be a good
> > thing also so that we can make sure everyone is on board with the whole
> > idea and not just a few of us deciding what will go into it.
> 
> And still we can use the invidual knowlege of the people. I for example
> could imagine getting a "Running services" (postfix, inetd, apache2,
> ...) chapter done.
> 
It would be great if you could do a chapter on those areas.

> > As of right now, I have only had about one person step up to help with
> > this book, in the beginning people where saying I was wrong because I
> > wanted to do it myself, so I took everyone's advice and opened it up for
> > others to help me. Now noone has really put anything in.
> 
> This does not sound like a single person can handle it.
> 
It is definatly more than a one person job.

> > I have no problem with this, but if this will be changed into a
> > community mainly project it still needs to follow along the structure
> > that is mainly there.
> 
> Can we take a look at it already? You probably introduced it already but
> I forgot. :)
> 
http://69.155.172.150/book always been there. :-)

> > We worked for quite a while to get the framework and such to
> > where it is and I think it is very nice. I don't want to start from
> > scratch and I don't think we have the time.
> 
> The framework could be exactly the structure we are looking for.
> 
I hope it is.

> > Last note. Combining effort into this is a great idea, but we need not
> > forget the other docs that are needing to be done. Such as "man pages",
> > "gnome-docs", misc docs just laying around that could use some love, I
> > know some people where saying Nautilus docs could really use some love.
> 
> We should not just have Wiki page on display about what's done. Sivan
> has already started listing who's working on what. And I'm still
> completely unsure how the ubuntufication of man page will happen. But I
> think the Tech Team has just discussed that so there is probably not yet
> a consensus.
> 
I have no clue how to change man pages, but I would love to learn.

> > If we do this than it needs to be decided soon, because if we sit around
> > and discuss it for a week, that is one more week where nothing is
> > getting done.
> 
> Indeed. I admit I'm lazy. Give us a job! ;)
> 
I think we are all lazy to a degree.



John Hornbeck   
http://opensoftdesign.org
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