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If you are in doubt for any reason, this is where you need to work
with a lawyer in your own jurisdiction to determine the legality.<br>
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None of us are lawyers, so any advice we give should be taken with a
grain of salt. I don't think VMware will come after you though for
using it to test Ubuntu or Lubuntu.<br>
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Thomas<br>
(sent without my @ubuntu.com because GMail addresses are involved)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/14/22 21:42, Aaron Rainbolt wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thank you for taking the time to reply. This is
sort of what I was thinking when I asked the question, but it's
still close enough to a problem that I'm worried about it. In
addition, I intend on using Ubuntu for commercial use in the
not-too-distant future, so I'd rather not risk getting myself on
the bad side of a multi-billion dollar company. For now, I have
virt-manager, I can get Virtualbox (the open-source version, not
with the proprietary add-on pack), I've got some good physical
hardware, and you guys have VMware licenses for testing that
part of things, so I think I'll just use what I've got for the
time being, and possibly buy a VMware license at some point in
the future.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 11:21
AM John Chittum <<a href="mailto:john.chittum@canonical.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">john.chittum@canonical.com</a>>
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<div dir="auto">Not a lawyer, so grain of salt.
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<div dir="auto">Ubuntu, the OS, is not a commercial product
by itself. Ubuntu is offered as a free and open source OS.
If you are testing non-commercial offerings of Ubuntu, as
part of community work, then it should be fine to use
VMWare Player, Virtualbox, or other items for
non-commercial work. Community work is, by definition, not
commercial. </div>
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<div dir="auto">If you are working on a commercial product,
for instance, testing Ubuntu Pro features offered by
Canonical, or an appliance that will be sold to a
customer, then you may be in violation. If you are an
employee of Canonical employed to work on the OS, things
get dicey _but_ there are options available (we have
licenses available). Or if you are using it as part of
your job (say, you're a sys admin, and part of your job is
to vet Ubuntu, and you just happen to also contribute
upstream when you find a bug). Then you should talk to
your workplace about getting you a license. </div>
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<div dir="auto">TL:DR if it's solely community work, it
shouldn't be a breach. Other things would be case by
case. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, May 14, 2022,
10:50 Aaron Rainbolt <<a href="mailto:arraybolt3@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">arraybolt3@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks, that's what I needed to know!
Virt-manager is more than sufficient for my needs, and
I can always cough up the $150-$200 if I really want
to do VMware testing.
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<div>Thank you for your time and help!</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 13, 2022
at 3:51 AM Shane O'Sullivan <<a href="mailto:hitsuji@tenmilesout.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">hitsuji@tenmilesout.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">It's a breach of the EULA. I would
highly recommend installing virt-manager as a
suitable alternative.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri 13 May
2022, 08:17 Aaron Rainbolt, <<a href="mailto:arraybolt3@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">arraybolt3@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">I am digging deep into the world
of Ubuntu development and am trying to make
sure my alpha and beta testing is as
effective as possible. I also don't want to
cash out an arm and a leg for expensive
software to do so. I've been using
virt-manager (QEMU/KVM) for testing on virtual
machines, and while things seem to be going
well, I'd like to test on other hypervisors
too for the sake of catching as many bugs
as possible.
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<div>VMware provides their Workstation Player
product for free, <b>for non-commercial
use.</b> Problem is, I can't figure out if
using VMware for Ubuntu testing would be
considered commercial use. One one hand, I'm
not a Canonical employee, nor am I using
VMware for employment purposes, so that
would be non-commercial, but on the
other hand, I'm helping a large enterprise
build an OS that is used for
commercial purposes, so that seems like
commercial use.</div>
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<div>Do any of y'all do QA testing in the free
version of VMware Workstation Player? Does
anyone know if this is a legal use of
VMware?</div>
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<div>Thank you for your help and time.</div>
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<div>(Note: I <i>think</i> these kinds of
questions are what this mailing list is for,
but if I'm misguided and should have sent
this to ubuntu-devel-discuss, please let me
know and I'll direct these kinds of
questions there instead.)</div>
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