<p dir="ltr">Ok, thanks for the clarification. Sounds good.</p> <br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, 12:09 PM Carl Richell <<a href="mailto:carl@system76.com">carl@system76.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u> <div><div>Correct, the current Ubiquity would remain close to the same with two exceptions:<br></div> <div><br></div> <div>Move KB Layout after the Welcome screen<br></div> <div>Move the hostname field to the Installation Type screen<br></div></div><div> <div><br></div> <div>On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, at 10:01 AM, Aaron Honeycutt wrote:<br></div> <blockquote type="cite"><p dir="ltr">But would this all be to the current minimal version of Ubiquity and not the main one current? I ask as part of Kubuntu since we don't use the GNOME setup.<br></p><p dir="ltr">Though I think we have whole another UI setup for our KDE/Qt install frontend.<br></p><div><br></div> <div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, 11:58 AM Carl Richell <<a href="mailto:carl@system76.com" target="_blank">carl@system76.com</a>> wrote:<br></div> <blockquote style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><u></u><br></div> <div><div>Timezone is taken care of by GNOME Initial Setup. We'd like to remove the duplication.<br></div> </div> <div><div><br></div> <div>On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, at 09:54 AM, Aaron Honeycutt wrote:<br></div> <blockquote type="cite"><p dir="ltr">I'm curious on why you want to remove timezone selection. All the other changes sound great as I would like a better partitioning setup for encrypted machines as I feel the current one is not the best (not sure if my issues are just with our KDE/Qt one or not).<br></p><div><br></div> <div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, 11:47 AM Jeremy Bicha <<a href="mailto:jbicha@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">jbicha@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<br></div> <blockquote style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Thanks Carl for starting this conversation! I'm forwarding this to<br></div> <div>ubuntu-devel for you so that this discussion can reach a wider<br></div> <div>audience.<br></div> <div><br></div> <div>Thanks,<br></div> <div>Jeremy Bicha<br></div> <div><br></div> <div>On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Carl Richell <<a href="mailto:carl@system76.com" target="_blank">carl@system76.com</a>> wrote:<br></div> <div>> System76 would like to use GNOME Initial Setup for user configuration.<br></div> <div>> Currently, there is duplication with Ubiquity.<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> We propose changing Ubiquity to add a “minimal” mode, triggered by a kernel<br></div> <div>> parameter (a flag similar to how OEM install is triggered now). This enables<br></div> <div>> flavors to use whichever version makes sense for them. System76’s Pop!_OS<br></div> <div>> and the elementary OS team are interested in using “minimal”. Minimal might<br></div> <div>> be attractive to Ubuntu w/ GNOME as well.<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> “Minimal” will contain the least amount necessary to install the OS. We also<br></div> <div>> prefer off-line installs with minimal which would remove options to download<br></div> <div>> updates or install 3rd party software during install. This requires adding<br></div> <div>> language packs to the iso when using minimal.<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Minimal screens:<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Welcome/Language Select - change: add KB Layout [1]<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Installation Type - change: move hostname here [2]<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> If full disk encryption is chosen, Choose Security Key screen.<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> --Timezone: we’d like to remove timezone but Ubiquity is crashing when we do<br></div> <div>> so. More investigation is necessary.<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> [1] KB layout currently comes after “Installation Type”. Users can’t set<br></div> <div>> their layout before typing a full-disk encryption password. Moving KB layout<br></div> <div>> forward would fix this. However, Ubuntu uses the first Welcome Screen to<br></div> <div>> display both language and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu”. A couple of<br></div> <div>> ideas:<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Boot to a live environment with a “Install Ubuntu” icon on the desktop.<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> For a “complete” Ubiquity install, move KB layout after the Welcome Screen.<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> [2] Hostname is currently on the “Who are you?” screen. It uses the username<br></div> <div>> and DMI information to populate the hostname. We propose using the same DMI<br></div> <div>> information, adding 4 hexadecimals to the end (a checksum of the MAC address<br></div> <div>> “Galag-Pro-A8F3”), and moving the hostname up to the “Installation Type”<br></div> <div>> screen. This enables “minimal” installs to set the hostname and business<br></div> <div>> customers can install the OS on multiple machines, with automatic or custom<br></div> <div>> hostnames, then give the computer to their user for account setup.<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Current Ubiquity “Complete” Screens<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Welcome w/ Language Select and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu”<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Preparing to Install Ubuntu w/ Download Updates and Install 3rd Party<br></div> <div>> checkboxes<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Installation Type w/ drive setup and full disk encryption<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> If full disk is chosen, Choose Security Key<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Timezone<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Keyboard Layout<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Who Are You? w/ user account setup and hostname<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Proposed Ubiquity “Complete” Screen<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Welcome w/ Language Select and “Try Ubuntu” or “Install Ubuntu”<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Keyboard Layout<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Preparing to Install Ubuntu w/ Download Updates and Install 3rd Party<br></div> <div>> checkboxes<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Installation Type w/ drive setup and full disk encryption ADD hostname<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> If full disk is chosen, Choose Security Key<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Timezone<br></div> <div>><br></div> <div>> Who Are You? w/ user account setup REMOVE hostname<br></div> <div><br></div> <div>--<br></div> <div>ubuntu-devel mailing list<br></div> <div><a href="mailto:ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br></div> <div>Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel</a><br></div> </blockquote></div> <div dir="ltr">-- <br></div> <div><p dir="ltr"><br></p><div>Aaron Honeycutt<br></div> <div>- Ubuntu Fl Loco South Lead<br></div> <div>- Kubuntu Council Member<br></div> <p><br></p></div> </blockquote><div><br></div> </div> </blockquote></div> <div dir="ltr">-- <br></div> <div><p dir="ltr"><div>Aaron Honeycutt<br></div> <div> - Ubuntu Fl Loco South Lead<br></div> <div> - Kubuntu Council Member<br></div> </p></div> </blockquote><div><br></div> </div></blockquote></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><p dir="ltr">Aaron Honeycutt<br> - Ubuntu Fl Loco South Lead<br> - Kubuntu Council Member</p> </div>