<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 December 2013 10:33, Oliver Grawert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ogra@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ogra@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
wow, you highly underestimate how much manpower it costs to support a<br>
release for *five* years ... LTS releases need to be selected in advance<br>
so that the versions of the software we include in the release are<br>
actually supported by their upstreams for that long time or if they are<br>
not, at least easily supportable by us.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Fair comment, and since raising it 6 weeks ago I'd pretty much come to the same conclusion.<br><br></div><div>The core point remains that Ubuntu ought to have a specific plan to support migrating XP users, assuming those users are desirable.<br>
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what scott said is absolutely right, XP users should just use 13.10 and<br>
upgrade to 14.04 once it is out.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So there's a definite preference for 13.10 -> 14.04 rather than 12.04 -> 14.04? That's something that needs spelling out.<br><br></div><div>
If 13.10 -> 14.04 is the preferred route then there should be a fairly strong commitment that any hardware (and in particular graphics hardware) supported by 13.10 will continue to be supported in 14.04. Doing an in-place upgrade to 14.04 that massively breaks things and leaves an ex-XP user facing a command prompt will set public perception back by years. And indeed this is only relevant if 13.10 supported the hardware typically found on XP systems. There's a very small time window between 14.04's release and end of support for 13.10 in order to get everyone upgraded.<br>
<br>To that end I've tended to favour 12.04 -> 14.04 as 12.04 is more likely to run on older hardware (as it is itself older), and there's a much bigger time window in which to migrate to 14.04. Although perhaps a 12.04 respin with backports for things like LibreOffice would be a better compromise (older LO versions don't handle MS office files well and again this will affect perception of Ubuntu in general).<br>
</div><div> <br></div><div>What is lacking here is a clear migration plan for XP users to follow, and I think that is a missed opportunity. Whether or not 13.10 LTS (or 13.10 "LTS-Lite") is an appropriate part of that migration plan is probably to miss the main point.<br>
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