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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/29/2012 09:44 AM, Didier Roche
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 29/11/2012 16:37, Micah Gersten a
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/29/2012 09:26 AM, Didier
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 29/11/2012 16:12, Micah
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<pre wrap="">On 11/29/2012 04:45 AM, Ubuntu Archive Robot wrote:
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<pre wrap="">libunity-webapps (2.4.3daily12.11.29-0ubuntu1) raring; urgency=low
* Automatic snapshot from revision 866
Date: 2012-11-29 08:00:12.447090+00:00
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<pre wrap="">Could we please have more verbose changelogs about what has changed than
this?
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Hey Micah,<br>
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The changelog is generated from all the bugs attached to the
branch from the developers. So, if the developers attached no
bug to a branch and doesn't file the NEWS file, it will be
empty, as you can see with most of the uploads we have in
GNOME and others "New upstream release".<br>
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When people are actually doing this, you get even more info
than a simple upload you do manually, see for instance:<br>
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where you get the upstream committer name.<br>
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That's fine if it's a new upstream release as that means that
someone has manually signed off on it as a release containing
new content worth making a release for. Here, as an automated
process, I think it's more problematic if there's no entry
explaining why the upload was done. The commits might be rather
useless and not really warrant an upload. It might be possible
to refine the automation further to skip such useless uploads.
I'm wondering, if there's no bug or NEWS entry, if the bzr
commit message should be used.<br>
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I tried as the first approach to use the commit message if no bug
was attached, but the changelog did sound really noisy and I think
that what we are really interested in are the bugs that are closed
in an upload. You still have the debdiff if you want to have the
full story of what's new inside (or the upstream vcs which is
listed in debian/control). I think people interested enough in
addition to the team monitoring those upstream projects can have a
look there.<br>
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I'm actually more concerned from the archive side than the project
side of this. I'm wondering if there are uploads that aren't worth
doing which ends up wasting build time, storage space, and
bandwidth.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Micah<br>
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