If the hardware is from 2000+ then it is likely to have PAE support. And running Win 98 just means it wasn't older than that. Win 2000 was a business version, and XP as the next consumer version didn't come out until Oct 2001. What I saw on Intel's site is that roughly 1999 is when everything had PAE. So the question is how old is too old, eventually there will be a cutoff, 12 years is pretty long. Plus the time that O is still supported. So close to 15 years total. John =:-> <div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 13, 2011 6:21 PM, "Dotan Cohen" <<a href="mailto:dotancohen@gmail.com">dotancohen@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 09:19, Martin Pool <<a href="mailto:mbp@canonical.com">mbp@canonical.com</a>> wrote: >> Computers are replaced as frequently as refrigerators by people who don't >> care how quickly it loads a page or makes ice: when it stops turning on. > > Those people are probably not upgrading their refrigerator firmware > all that often either. They may not want a major new OS release. > They might install an update/backport of a particular app. > I am not aware of replacement refrigerator software. I do know of people who for a variety of reasons continue to use perfectly serviceable hardare from the early 2000S. In fact, one library that I service is still using some ancient machine for their catalog that was running on Windows 98 until a few months ago. It is now an Ubuntu machine running wine. I do not remember which version of Ubuntu, but it runs perfectly fine on that 13-year-old hardware. > There is a group of people who want the latest-and-greatest software > on old or small hardware, but they're necessarily the crowd you're > describing here. > I doubt that these people need latest-and-greatest software, but they do need supported software. That is the argument for keeping the non-PAE kernel in the LTS release. -- Dotan Cohen <a href="http://gibberish.co.il" target="_blank">http://gibberish.co.il</a> <a href="http://what-is-what.com" target="_blank">http://what-is-what.com</a> -- ubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div>