On Nov 10, 2011 10:15 AM, "Tim Gardner" <<a href="mailto:tim.gardner@canonical.com">tim.gardner@canonical.com</a>> wrote: > As far as I can tell there hasn't been a mass produced non-PAE cpu in over 5 years that we (as a distro) care about. The consumer grade electronics lifecycle is _well_ below 5 years. Furthermore, the distro focus has been desktop with high performance 3D graphics and servers. Where do non-PAE CPUs fit in that world? There are better distro choices to fill that niche. Among gamer nerds or among people whose needs ubuntu can actually fill: the ones who just need a web browser and a word processor? My experience with the latter group is that until the hardware craps out, they have no intention of spending money on a new one. Dad got rid of the pentium 2 when the motherboard died less than a year ago. Mom still has a c 2002 system running Ubuntu, and I'm pretty sure the last time any of their friends asked me to fix a windows blue screen it was well over 5 years old too. Computers are replaced as frequently as refrigerators by people who don't care how quickly it loads a page or makes ice: when it stops turning on. Maco