<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd"><html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><style type="text/css">p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }</style></head><body style=" font-family:'DejaVu Sans'; font-size:9pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">Hi all,<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>I can clear things up ;) We should keep this discussion on one list, the art list probably.<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>On Friday 28 August 2009 11:13:05 pm Andrew SB wrote:<br>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Dmitrijs<br>
><br>
> Ledkovs<dmitrij.ledkov@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
> > Hello All<br>
> ><br>
> > I've just submitted a patch for tangerine-icon-theme package to fix 3<br>
> > bugs.<br>
><br>
> As it is in main I can't sponsor the fixes, but I've subscribed the<br>
> appropriate team.<br>
><br>
> > I did a -3ubuntu1 version. But it seems a bit odd, cause I thought it<br>
> > was an Ubuntu driven theme.<br>
> ><br>
> > Who is driver / maintainer of upstream launchpad.net/tangerine-icon<br>
> > theme?<br>
><br>
> The situation seems a bit odd. As far as I know, Canonical's art team<br>
> is indeed the upstream maintainer. Ubuntu's packaging though seems to<br>
> have been scraped in favor of syncing the Debian package maintained by<br>
> the Debian GNOME Maintainers.<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>The tangerine theme was maintained by a community member who is no longer very involved with Ubuntu.<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>> > Who has access to change driver / maintainer?<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>I can change anything artwork related in Ubuntu so in the end, I guess this will fall onto my plate unless someone else is hungry :)<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>> The "upstream" tangerine-icon-theme project is owned by the<br>
> ubuntu-art-pkg. This team is in itself a bit of an odd creature that<br>
> might need to be reconsidered. Except for C.Kontros, I believe all of<br>
> its members are Canonical employees or not active in Ubuntu<br>
> development anymore (perhaps former employees?). Kenneth Wimer seems<br>
> to be its administrator. Except for Ken, none of the members actually<br>
> seem to be active in the team. Though Daniel Holbach has merged my<br>
> personal community-themes branch in a few times for me.<br>
><br>
> A lot of the branches owned by the team seem to be unmaintained cruft.<br>
> Even tangerine-icon-theme which is still commonly used, hasn't seen a<br>
> commit since 2007-09-18. Except for the default artwork, the only<br>
> active project owned by the team seems to be community-themes which no<br>
> one from the team seems involved with. As of my upload of the other<br>
> day, community-themes in Ubuntu isn't actually in sync with that<br>
> branch anyways...<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>The ubuntu-art-packager team came out of a need to prevent non-technical people from suggesting packages and fixes which only cause problems, at least I think that is why it happened, maybe I am wrong. It was before my time, but as things stand, myself and Cory or the only ones on the team who are actively working on design issues. Some of the other members do take care of tasks here and there which no artist wants/needs to deal with.<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>The community themes package is there because that is where I put it when I made it :)<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>> Perhaps it's time for a reorganization? Maybe move things like<br>
> tangerine-icon-theme and community-themes to a place where they can<br>
> more easily receive community contributions and move the default stuff<br>
> under the umbrella of the UX team or desktop team?<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>I think that anyone who is interested in becoming a part of this team should apply on launchpad (click the right button) and/or send me an email. Andrew, it seems like a no-brainer for you to be on it if you wish. Dima, let's discuss what you want/plan to do - it should be easy to take care of, I just need to have faith that I am not causing more harm than help.<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>--<br>
Ken<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br></p>> > Does anyone wants to actively maintain it?<br>
> ><br>
> > I would love to maintain it =) I'm not an artists but I love this<br>
> > theme and I'm a fairly good packager / autotools intermediate user.<br>
> > There are already a few submissions on launchpad bugs which I would be<br>
> > willing to investigate (legal / licensing) and incorporate.<br>
> ><br>
> > (I like breathe as well and I'm not intending to steal thunder ;-) I<br>
> > just want tangerine to still be in decent shape in ubuntu/debian<br>
> > archives)<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > With best regards<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Dmitrijs Ledkovs (for short Dima),<br>
> > Ледков Дмитрий Юрьевич<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > ubuntu-art mailing list<br>
> > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com<br>
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art<br>
><br>
> - Andrew Starr-Bochicchio<br>
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