<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I can setup a few conference rooms on a asterisk for your problem resolving conferences which will be up always if that would help<div> </div><div>Silvan</div><div> <div><div>Am 04.09.2008 um 11:15 schrieb Daniel Holbach:</div> <blockquote type="cite"><div>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Lesicnik schrieb: <blockquote type="cite">I agree that some form of a conference call between those involved is </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">a great way to address issues, but also poses some difficulties. </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Getting all interested parties to attend at a certain time for </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">instance.   </blockquote> I agree, finding a suitable meeting time is a problem in almost all more direct forms of communication. Still I think if it's all about finding a solution to a problem you care about, it will be possible to find a good meeting time, even if you have to stay up late or get up early. <blockquote type="cite">Email is also a good way to think about things before you </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">say them, potentially avoiding things said in the heat of the moment, </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">which could cause more issues (although i guess are sometimes better </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">said than unsaid and thought). </blockquote> The reason why I suggest making use calls to more directly interact is that you can convey much more than the thoughts you have. You can hear out small nuances in the voice of the participants, you get much more of an impression who is speaking and how they mean what they say. It's far easier, in a call, to avoid misunderstandings by asking for a clarification early. This can very early avoid heated arguments by having everybody "on the same page". Also keeping focus is a huge problem on mailing lists. You will often find how a small detail attracts all the attention and produce discussions of several pages length. If you set a time limit in a call, you can much more easily insist on getting back to a solution to the problem at hand. In addition to that the whole experience is feeling much closer to each other. I'm sure that in a lot of cases a very few one-hour calls might have a much more lasting effect than heated debates on mailing lists that go on for several days. Laughing about a joke together on the phone can relax a tense situation and bring people closer together. Figuring out a solution in short time together is much more likely to give everybody the feeling of "we achieved something together" and enable the participants to figure out problems together in the future. <blockquote type="cite">I've used skype conference call stuff (yes, i know skype is an evil </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">propriety protocol). Maybe empathy / ekiga will offer us something? </blockquote> Yes, I've used Skype successfully before and still use it. It does what I want it to do, but a solution that seamlessly works on AMD64 etc etc would be nice. Somebody told me that ekiga.net offers a few "chat rooms", but they're "free for all" so you'd dial in and try out the room and find somebody else in there already. The same might happen to you when you finally found a free room. Have a nice day, Daniel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <a href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org">http://enigmail.mozdev.org</a> iD8DBQFIv6crRjrlnQWd1esRArYCAJ0ccglUsxZByPDXX8fycM8+2huroACeMsu0 fiQ6L1nvUIE0Ud/PDO1z6RU= =UngO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel</a> </div></blockquote></div> </div></body></html>