<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Scott Kitterman <<a href="mailto:ubuntu@kitterman.com">ubuntu@kitterman.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:11:32 -0300 "Cody A.W. Somerville"<br> <<a href="mailto:cody-somerville@ubuntu.com">cody-somerville@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div></blockquote><div><snip> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">>Anyhow, I suppose the first step is blocking the update and getting a fix<br> out. After, we can look at how this happened and what we need to do to<br> reduce the risk of something similiar occuring again.<br> ><br> </div>....<br> Everyone knows backports are crack and so ....<br> <br> I am aware (I approved the backport) and as soon as I get somwhere that<br> lends itslef to a stable IRC presence (less than an hour) I intend to hunt<br> down an archive admin and deal with it.<br> <br> Backports by design are risky and aggressive.  Sometimes they don't work<br> out and we deal with it.  We actually don't want to prevent risk taking in<br> backports, so please don't 'fix' the process.</blockquote><div><br>If not the "process" then probably the documented policy (which seems to be <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports</a>). In the "Stability" section it says: "A great deal of work goes into testing backports and it's highly unlikely for a backport to be a severe regression from the version it replaces."<br><br>Furthermore, since it seems the common user enables -backports, we should do a better job of informing them of the risks - probably including a warning when actually enabling it.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> <br> <br> Scott K<br> <font color="#888888"><br> --<br> ubuntu-devel mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel</a><br> </font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Cody A.W. Somerville<br>Software Engineer<br>Red Cow Marketing & Technologies, Inc.<br>Office: 506-458-1290<br>Toll Free: 1-877-733-2699<br>Fax: 506-453-9112<br> Cell: 506-449-5899<br>Email: <a href="mailto:cody@redcow.ca">cody@redcow.ca</a><br><a href="http://www.redcow.ca">http://www.redcow.ca</a>