How about bundling open JRE (with the plug-in) by default and if alone JavaFX can get some presence in RIA space, Ubuntu can have a truly free, patent unencumbered RIA platform. Also, the server edition can ship with full openJDK and Tomcat or JBoss/Glassfish thus acting as a full-fledged and easy to deploy application server for enterprises. <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Colin Watson <<a href="mailto:cjwatson@ubuntu.com">cjwatson@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 07:58:00PM +0200, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote: > Yesterday Java has been announced as 100% free. > <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/webmink/entry/free_compatible_java_at_last" target="_blank">http://blogs.sun.com/webmink/entry/free_compatible_java_at_last</a> > <a href="http://blog.softwhere.org/archives/196" target="_blank">http://blog.softwhere.org/archives/196</a> > > Maybe Ubuntu could include this free implementation by default? </div>Yes, we are definitely going to be looking at this and it's an obvious strong contender for inclusion as the default Java implementation. Note that an earlier version of OpenJDK is already in Ubuntu 8.04, thanks to the efforts of Matthias Klose; we have been keeping a close eye on it. Cheers, -- Colin Watson                                       [<a href="mailto:cjwatson@ubuntu.com">cjwatson@ubuntu.com</a>] -- ubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div> -- Chandra Sekar.S e-mail: <a href="http://chandru.in">chandru.in</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a> Blog: <a href="http://tuxychandru.blogspot.com/">http://tuxychandru.blogspot.com/</a> We choose the brand of our Mobile Phone, Motorbike, Car, Shirt, Shoe, Bread, etc. Then why not the brand of our OS too? Pre-loading and forcing Vista on new laptops kills consumers' choice. Fight for choice of OS just as there is for the Hard Disk capacity in new laptops.