I believe the novell / microsoft treatise trumps any proprietary driver debacle.  Thanks anyway, Everyone rational <div>On 11/24/06, Shark Muddleworth <<a href="mailto:shark.muddleworth@googlemail.com">shark.muddleworth@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Canonical's recent decision to include proprietary GPL violating drivers in the default install, circumventing the copyright framework clearly articulated in the GPL has sent shockwaves through the community. If you are an ubuntu developer who is concerned about the long term consequences of this fact, you may be interested in opensuse We would be happy to help people who want to join the openSUSE community - in any capacity, including developers and package maintainers. If you want to find out how openSUSE works you can communicate with the community (see <a href="http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate">http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate</a>). A special introductory session is being organised for mid December, watch this space. openSUSE is structured to empower our community to get things done, and to maximise the opportunity for collaboration between teams that share a common vision. Such tools as the openSUSE build service (<a href="http://build.opensuse.org/"> http://build.opensuse.org/</a>) help empower our community. If you have an interest in being part of a vibrant community that cares about keeping free software widely available and protecting the rights of people to get it free of charge, free to modify, free of GPL violations, and focussing on creating the most usable Free software desktop, then please do join us. I know that posting this message to an ubuntu list will be trolling^WControversial. I'm greatly respectful of the long tradition of excellence in the Ubuntu product and community and have no desire to undermine that with this post. That said, I think the position taken by Ubuntu leadership in their inclusion of non-gpled kernel modules linked to the GPLed kernel is disrespectful of the contributions of thousands of GPL kernel programmers and contributors to Ubuntu, and I know that many are looking for a new place to get involved that is not subject to the same arbitrary executive intervention. openSUSE is one option, as are Fedora, gnewsense other communities. Please accept this mail in that spirit. Some openSUSE members _ Disclaimer: Response to <a href="http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-11/msg03765.html">http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-11/msg03765.html </a>, intended to highlight the inappropriateness of the original mail. Although based on facts, the above content is intended satirical and not to attack ubuntu or offend. -- ubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel </a> </blockquote></div>