<span class="gmail_quote"></span>My 5 cents;<br><br>While Jabber is an interesting option (and I'm eager to promote it as much as I can) IRC actually DOES all the stuff Ubuntu needs it to do. I wouldn't say user-friendliness actually fit in this scenario, since we're discussing protocols, not client implementations. (And Gaim supports IRC just as well as Jabber MUC, with the same features, as does Kopete)
<br><br>However, I would say Jabber is the ONLY openly designed protocol (whereas I would consider IRC an evolved protocol) for instant messaging, and thus should definately be promoted by Ubuntu in all ways that can benefit the user. As I would see it, it is almost required from Ubuntu Linux, according to the Ubuntu Philosophy (
<a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/philosophy" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/philosophy</a>)<br><br>In the discussion of Jabber vs. IRC, I would say that good Jabber-integration in Ubuntu (integration beyond simle MUC) could provide for quite a bit more than plain IRC, for instance the pub-sub mechanisms could be used for security bulletins with direct actions for updating, Jingle could be used for IP-telephony, and there are some interesting applications for social browsing and other kind of peer interaction.
<br><br>So, to sum up, while IRC right now does everything needed for MUC, I think Ubuntu should really push the limits in supporting Jabber, to the extent that it some day the IRC-support channels will be phased out as a result.
<br><br>Respectfully<br><span class="sg">/ Ulrik<br><br><br><br></span><div><span class="q"><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/21/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Samir van de Sand</b> <<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
</span></span><div><span class="e" id="q_10e718cf2f7546e4_4"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi everyone,<br><br>I just read the call for specifications for UDS Mountain View. So
<br>here's my idea:<br><br>Why not move the Ubuntu channels to Jabber? Jabber provides a feature<br>called MUC, where Jabber users can create chat rooms on a jabber<br>server to communicate with each other. Here are possible reasons why
<br>the Ubuntu channels should move to jabber:<br>* From the rational point this is a better solution, because you can<br>use your existing IM program like Gaim and Kopete to connect to the<br>chat channels.<br>* In Jabber the Server communicate among each other, which means that
<br>a user which has an account on jabber server a can enter a channel on<br>server b without connecting to server b and identifying on server b.<br>* Ubuntu as a free distribution should support the spreading of open<br>
and standardized protocols in the IM world.<br><br>What do you guys think about that ?<br><br><br>regards Samir<br><br>--<br>ubuntu-devel mailing list<br><a href="mailto:email@example.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
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